flushing fish
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The0wn4g3
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Most of my fish that have died have gone to 1 of my cats. They really appreciate those $30 and $45 meals.
In some extreme cases I've been forced to put a suffering fish out of its misery... quickest death I could think of was putting it in a plastic bag and slamming it against a wall. I don't know about fish, but I'd rather go out in one quick blow than suffocating or being frozen :eek1:
In some extreme cases I've been forced to put a suffering fish out of its misery... quickest death I could think of was putting it in a plastic bag and slamming it against a wall. I don't know about fish, but I'd rather go out in one quick blow than suffocating or being frozen :eek1:
Paul B
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Well maybe those cows, fish and chickens were someone else's pet.
I don't consider my fish pets, I think of them as a hobby. I don't name them or sleep with them or talk to them because they are fish. Like I said fish were made to be eaten and for that reason I don't believe they have feelings, I don't know about emotions but I doubt it. Just about every fish ever born was eaten by something else, most of the time, alive. The fish that are not eaten suffocate in the hold of a ship. An animal like that should not feel pain.
They are also cold blooded which means that if you chill them all of their bodily functions including their brain gradually slows down until it stops. They do not feel cold because they were never warm. I believe it is much more humane to flush or freeze a fish then to let it die of ich where it is being eaten alive, although as I said they are usually eaten alive.
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bbehring
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Is this the comedy forum? Gees what a laugh! Way too much thought going into how to kill a fish. When I was in Jr. High we use to use ladyfingers to blow the bluegills we caught off our hooks. Quarted, cleaned and cooked them all in one shot! Come on people, just flush, freeze, smash against the wall, hit with a hammer or feed them to your pets. No one needs a lecture on how or why to do it one way vs another for humanity's sake. Fun topic though!
Can they feel pain, certainly. That's just based on readily observable reactions to obvious stimuli. If if fish biting into a hook didn't feel pain, it wouldn't bother going off on a long and fast run the second it bit into the hook. Does that stop me from fishing, no. No more than it stops me from eating steak. However, some people do consider their fish to be pets. Even some farmers will have a pet pig or some other livestock that is a pet. That one will often not turn into dinner, yet the others kept in the barn are. So even for animals used for food, some of us can make a distinction between dinner and valued pet. I can easily go catch a large striped bass, fillet it, cook it and eat it. But I would feel bad if something happened to hurt my French Angel. As for freezing, IME a sick fish normally expires from the cold without any obvious signs of pain long before the temp is cold enough to start forming ice crystals.
BeanAnimal
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This kind of stuff just kills me!
Do you use the same logic when YOU take a fish fron the ocean and hold it captive in YOUR tank? What about it's feelings and rights? I am sure you have a convenient explanation about that.
This whole thread is silly!
israelnajar
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^^Agreed^^
How can flushing a dead fish be cruel? It is dead what does it care?
Also I am sure most anglers gut their fish alive, smashing them between two bricks or hammer them, that would just smash the bones and make it harder to fillet.
BTW I agree with freezing a suffering fish, as its body temp is the same temp as the water. Slowly bringing its temp down until death in a dark place probably eases stress and suffering.
If anyone sees Aqua Man ask him if fish feel pain.
How can flushing a dead fish be cruel? It is dead what does it care?
Also I am sure most anglers gut their fish alive, smashing them between two bricks or hammer them, that would just smash the bones and make it harder to fillet.
BTW I agree with freezing a suffering fish, as its body temp is the same temp as the water. Slowly bringing its temp down until death in a dark place probably eases stress and suffering.
If anyone sees Aqua Man ask him if fish feel pain.
Cody Ray
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This thread is stupid plain and simple. This does not belong in any forum other than maybe the lounge. Just because YOU believe something doesn't make it true! The fact that you weep over one fish yet don't raise a finger for the millions that are killed annually in the pet and food trade is just hypocritical. I have fish. I try to take good care of them. If they get sick I attempt to treat them until they are either better or die (like at the hospital). If they die they get fed to a larger fish.
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