Follow the Tang's Trip to the Hospital-Live or Die Take the Poll!!

Follow the Tang's Trip to the Hospital-Live or Die Take the Poll!!

  • Lives a long life to have many babies!!

    Votes: 11 50.0%

  • Star's in the movie "Flushed Away!!"

    Votes: 11 50.0%
  • Total voters
    22
Day Three.

Woke up today and found the poor guy laying sideways on the bottom of the hospital floor.:thumbdown:thumbdown
As I am posting this the results of the polls were 6 voted he would live and 7 voted he would die.

The seven were right. The poor little guy will be flushed.

Things I would have done different.
1. treated all of my fish before I put them into my tank.
2. I would not have just left this guy in my tank. For what ever reason he had a outbreak of ich and I felt most comfortable doing damage control to protect the rest of my fish.
3. Had this happened again, I might have moved the tang to the hospital tank but not added copper right away. this might have given him a little less stress.


What I will do now.
1. I will remove all of my fish from my main tank. I will put them into a new tank with no copper for a period of time. I will read up on treatment before I put them back in my main tank.

Thanks for the comments on this thread. I hate to lose a beautiful fish like this.

REEF ON!!!
 
A fellow reefer I know went through 3 PBT before he got a show size one they always got ich then he got a UV sterilizer and he said it was his fish life insurance
 
duastina said:
A fellow reefer I know went through 3 PBT before he got a show size one they always got ich then he got a UV sterilizer and he said it was his fish life insurance
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What do people think about UV on your tanks?
I have never used one. What are the pros and cons?
 
By the way.....I love that people are still taking the poll and saying that the fish will live after he has died!!

Love it
 
just my .02

just my .02

Ok so I will make some folks mad with this post and some not this is my experience and what works for me so here it goes....

I have a 300 gallon tank, in it I have 13 tangs among other fish 20 total; yellow, atl blue, achiles, blonde naso, scopas, sailfin, kole, tomini, purple, powder blue and brown and a orange shoulder.

Now if there is one thing I know about tangs is when they get stressed they will break out in Ich. The stress could be as simple as a 5 year old tapping on the glass or me moving a frag. I have in the past done the hospital tank for up to 6 months with all fish not just one or two but all. I have used all sorts of treatments and although the fish looked great when done I have lost one or two afterwards due to the environment and then ich come back.

What I have concluded is this, Tangs are just common carriers of Ich it will come and go with them it is just a fact of Tang ownership. What I have found to be the best practice is this, keep your water stable like you have the most expensive SPS out there. If you dont have or wont make the time to do this QUIT KILLING THE FISH. I have also found that an ANTIBIOTIC called Metronidazole works great. Yes I know Ich is a Parasite and I am talking about an antibiotic, the only thing I can think of is it will bolster the immune system of the fish helping them out.

I use 500MG (1 tablet) of Metronidazole for every 20 gallons of water (not tank volume) for me it works out to 12 tablets. If I see any of my Tangs come down with it the in goes 12 tablets and the next day all signs are gone. I go to my vet and have her order me a 500 tablet bottle its like 52.00. I also feed my Tangs a wide variety of foods, this too is very important to their health. I feed frozen foods for all fish high quality Nori clean organic Spinach and live brine shrimp that I add garlic oils and vitamins to once a week.

NO blasting here I am only trying to give my .02 we are trying our best to replicate the most powerful body of water and sometimes mother nature is much smarter than us. Good luck on treating your fish
 
mike_dani said:
QUIT KILLING THE FISH.
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Does not sound like blasting to me......:rolleyes:

mike_dani said:
I use 500MG (1 tablet) of Metronidazole for every 20 gallons of water (not tank volume) for me it works out to 12 tablets. If I see any of my Tangs come down with it the in goes 12 tablets and the next day all signs are gone. I go to my vet and have her order me a 500 tablet bottle its like 52.00. I also feed my Tangs a wide variety of foods, this too is very important to their health. I feed frozen foods for all fish high quality Nori clean organic Spinach and live brine shrimp that I add garlic oils and vitamins to once a week.
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Do you have a corals in your tank or fish only. Is Metronidazole reef safe?
Thanks for the post. Did you take the poll? I am trying to raise my tang from the dead.....Please take the poll and tell us that you have FAITH!!

:D
 
DaFishHead said:
Does not sound like blasting to me......:rolleyes:


Do you have a corals in your tank or fish only. Is Metronidazole reef safe?
Thanks for the post. Did you take the poll? I am trying to raise my tang from the dead.....Please take the poll and tell us that you have FAITH!!

:D
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Not directed at you just the hobby in general, to many new reefers will kill numerous fish until they figure it out. I have no issues learning from your mistakes, I sure did 20 years ago and still do today. The problem I have is most fish are wild caught and some people do not use forums like these to do any research prior to adding or owning reef related live stock. I have been to too many LFS a hear them give the worst advice ever and people think this is the place to learn.



Here is the 300 setup before my glass cracked
300Setup.jpg


Here is my current setup waiting on a replacement tank
The_Lagoon.jpg


And here are some of the live stock I have
Sunset_MontiandPink_Tipped_Orange_D.jpg

Colonies.jpg

Frag_Rack_Left.jpg

Frag_Rack_Middle.jpg

Frag_Rack_Right.jpg

photo1.jpg


As you can see I have a little of everything LPS SPS Softies Clams and Anemones, none of them have ever shown a adverse reaction to the Metro.
 
while moving the tank into the house we had to turn it on its side because it is 36" wide with a coast to coast external overflow that is 5" wide so it would not fit through the front door at 41" total. There was a small spot that had not been polished and had a bur in the edge so when the load shifted there was a pressure point added to the glass and it started as a chip. After filling and adding all the rock sand and water it cracked and started to leak.
 
OMG that bites! I was scared when you said your big tank cracked, my stand is leaning slightly and I was hoping that was not the cause, I know how thick that glass is, I thought it would take a lot to make it crack!
 
DaFishHead said:
Day Three.

Woke up today and found the poor guy laying sideways on the bottom of the hospital floor.:thumbdown:thumbdown

Things I would have done different.
1. treated all of my fish before I put them into my tank.
2. I would not have just left this guy in my tank. For what ever reason he had a outbreak of ich and I felt most comfortable doing damage control to protect the rest of my fish.
3. Had this happened again, I might have moved the tang to the hospital tank but not added copper right away. this might have given him a little less stress.


What I will do now.
1. I will remove all of my fish from my main tank. I will put them into a new tank with no copper for a period of time. I will read up on treatment before I put them back in my main tank.

Thanks for the comments on this thread. I hate to lose a beautiful fish like this.

REEF ON!!!
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Sorry to hear you lost him, but I commend you for documenting the attempt for others to benefit from.

It sounds like you understand what is required to rid your tank of the parasite.

To your point #2.... We'll never know what might have happened had you left him be. While he may have died from ich, he may also have died from the stress of capture, QT and treatment in a possibly uncycled HT. I'm not sure that removal of that particular fish would do a lot to protect the others. Ich is still there, and the other fish seem to have no problem with it so far. They aren't likely to have problems unless they get stressed for some other reason. It could be argued that having one fish that gets more easily attacked might contribute to a heathier population of parasite...

As I mentioned earlier, I have an achilles tang that has ich problems. It is a pretty good comparison to your PBT. I did nothing...still have the achilles..and I still have ich.

DaFishHead said:
What do people think about UV on your tanks?
I have never used one. What are the pros and cons?
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While it is expected that certain levels of UV can kill the parasite in its free-swimming stage...UV use alone won't make any significant difference in parasite population in the tank.
 
mike_dani said:
Not directed at you just the hobby in general, to many new reefers will kill numerous fish until they figure it out. I have no issues learning from your mistakes, I sure did 20 years ago and still do today. The problem I have is most fish are wild caught and some people do not use forums like these to do any research prior to adding or owning reef related live stock. I have been to too many LFS a hear them give the worst advice ever and people think this is the place to learn.
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Agreed and it drives me nuts too!
 
What (( if any )) bio-filtration did you have for that QT? It could have very well died from an ammonia spike -- didn't see anything in the way of filtration in that one pic.
 
duastina said:
A fellow reefer I know went through 3 PBT before he got a show size one they always got ich then he got a UV sterilizer and he said it was his fish life insurance
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The UV sterilizer won't take care of the ich.

To the OP - I'm sorry I saw this so late. As I was reading the thread, I was hoping you took the fish out of the copper and put him back in your display. As everyone was telling you, treating just the tang was pointless. You either needed to treat them all, or don't bother treating any. And treating a pbt with copper is not the way to go.
 
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