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[bretcummings]

From what I've read(and who know if it would be the route I would take) you may want to start over. Cook the rock, use tap water in your tank, and a vinegar bath. It will suck but better to be safe than waste your time and more money. I look forward to your future posts.

 

[MarineSniper]

Any water parameter issues, and what kind of fish? A good way to check things would be to get an extremely hardy fish like a damsel now. See how it does over a month or so. (they make good sump monsters once you're done, btw)

Have you seen any signs of ich? Is so, you'll need to leave the tank barren for about 6 weeks to make sure any in there cycle out

What was your feeding like, schedule and type? Variety seems to be key. I soak mine in Selcon and VitaChem, for added health. I feed veggie flakes twice a week (no tangs right now) and soak it in NutraMar Ova, to trick the carnivores that won't touch flake into doing so.

I lost every fish in my tank once, when my return pump electrocuted them and know how disheartening it can be. You'll figure this out and move forward again soon. As hard as it is now, you'll learn from it and the experience will benefit you throughout your tenure in the hobby

 

[lowscooby76]

From what I've read(and who know if it would be the route I would take) you may want to start over. Cook the rock, use tap water in your tank, and a vinegar bath. It will suck but better to be safe than waste your time and more money. I look forward to your future posts.

+1 :thumbsup:

 

[lowscooby76]

i'm glad you will still in the hobby. it is hard to get that salt out of your blood.if there is something i can do to help you out just let me know.

 

[mikeyj28]

I have had very solid water parameters, I can run them down to get an idea. Temp range 79.1-79.8, pH day 8.2 night 8.1. Calcium 420ppm, all 8 Dkh, nitrates are Undetectable. Mag is low at 1100ppm would like 1300. As for fish all I have had was a chcholate tang that died two weeks ago from velvet or ich. Since then the tank has sat empty except for a cleaner shrimp and some snails.
For feeding I used seaweed for that fish. For other fish I use brine, rods food, and garlic pellets which I rotate from day to day.
So all I didn't do that I will always do is qt my fish and watch them in there for a while.

 

[bucksfan1976]

Any water parameter issues, and what kind of fish? A good way to check things would be to get an extremely hardy fish like a damsel now. See how it does over a month or so. (they make good sump monsters once you're done, btw)

When I had my horrible outbreak of some kind in in my 65 when I lost all my fish this is exactly what I did I went out and grabbed a lemon damsel (7$) and a fiji devil damsel ($11) and put them in and waited a month. They are still alive and kicking to this day with no issues. No reason to go and spend $40-$80 bucks on a fish and take that kind of gamble. On a side note only fish I have lost since then was a wrasse but they are hit or miss any how.

 

[mikeyj28]

I will try that in about a month

 

[MarineSniper]

Definitely wait a month to 6 weeks, Mike. Putting one in right away gives the parasite a new host and defeats the purpose of leaving the tank barren

 

[mikeyj28]

Definitely wait a month to 6 weeks, Mike. Putting one in right away gives the parasite a new host and defeats the purpose of leaving the tank barren

I agree sniper. I will qt my fish for at a minimum of a month. I'm just going to let things be with the aquarium for a good deal of time.

 

[zeppelin]

definitely wait a month to 6 weeks, mike. Putting one in right away gives the parasite a new host and defeats the purpose of leaving the tank barren

+1

 

[mikeyj28]

I have been reading a lot about ich life cycles and velvet life cycles and feel that my tank need to just sit for at least 6 weeks, however I plan to wait an additional 3 more weeks. At that time I plan to get some small hardy fish in my qt to see how they look. Should I use copper in the qt no matter what?

 

[bucksfan1976]

6-8 weeks is what ive read on the normal life span. Now with the copper you will need to ask someone else I personally have tried copper but in my case I believe the fish were to far gone for it to help.

 

[MarineSniper]

I've read that most recommend against arbitrarily treating with copper in qt. I have a jug of Reef Rally that is a reef safe treatment. I bought that to use in my qt but have never done so. I may consider doing so with any shipped fish I might get during the summer months. They seem to be more susceptible during that season

 

[mikeyj28]

Where did you get the reef rally?

 

[zeppelin]

Marinesniper has given you some good direction. Follow his lead and you should be fine. Myself, I wouldn't use copper unless it is necessary. Personally, I quarantine without treatment at all unless I see the need. But there are many quarantine procedures out there. I am getting a tomato clown with a couple other fish this weekend. I will be quarantining them. Ill give you the clown to get started once you feel you are ready for a fish.

 

[ssgtgonzo]

I have been reading a lot about ich life cycles and velvet life cycles and feel that my tank need to just sit for at least 6 weeks, however I plan to wait an additional 3 more weeks. At that time I plan to get some small hardy fish in my qt to see how they look. Should I use copper in the qt no matter what?

+1 on leaving the tank bare of fish. That will interrupt the life cycle of the protozoans that cause velvet (amyloodium) and ich (cryptacaryon). You can leave inverts and coral because they do not host these parasites, therefore they can't perpetuate its lifecycle. I've also read accounts where increasing the temperature to over 80 speeds up the life cycle, thereby lowering the amount of days that it needs to remain fallow...but i would still leave it fish-free for at least 6 weeks.

As for treating asymptomatically with copper...i personally don't like to do that. Especially if you are quarantining for the requisite 2 weeks. Copper can kill the gut faunae of fish which is obviouslt detrimental. It also negates any cycled equipment (such as sponge filter from your sump) because it kills the bacteria. Copper needa to be kept at a certain level to be theraputic, typically a copper test is needed to test. They are expensive (i know! Like $20!!) for something that is used so infequently. And you have to buy a certain kind of copper test depending on the kind of copper product you use (chelated v non-chelated). Not to mention some fish are really sensitive to copper treatments (i.e. Mandarins, puffers) i think you'd be better served to use copper as a dip, and keep your qt at a hyposalinity level. That way you can hit it on 2 fronts.

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[mikeyj28]

Marinesniper has given you some good direction. Follow his lead and you should be fine. Myself, I wouldn't use copper unless it is necessary. Personally, I quarantine without treatment at all unless I see the need. But there are many quarantine procedures out there. I am getting a tomato clown with a couple other fish this weekend. I will be quarantining them. Ill give you the clown to get started once you feel you are ready for a fish.

Thanks a lot man! I'll let you know when I'm ready for fish

 

[mikeyj28]

Thanks for the tips I will stay away from meds unless I see a reason to have to use it.

 

[MarineSniper]

I have a large jug of the Reef Rally so, if you're in the Canal Winchester area, hit me up and I'll give you some, in case you ever have the need for it. I got it from a Cora member, when I bought some heaters. Seemed sensible to have it on hand, should I ever need it! I liked the fact that its a non copper based treatment and is supposed to be reef safe

 

[mikeyj28]

Thanks buddy I will let you know for sure if im up that way.