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Ahh..but I believe it is'nt as simple as that. You also have to PAY TAXES & have a storefront or research facility. I just thought it was interesting to note that some of the same people who are blasting Seth are also breaking the law, and have been for years to a much greater extent.
 
You can have a garage or bed room setup and get certified easily. There is a guy in the aquaculture thread doing it right now here in Fl and I have been in direct contact with the division of aquaculture and they told me the same thing: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1054297&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

The division of aquaculture will send out a rep to inspect your tanks, and answer any questions you might have, give you a little booklet too. They basically want to make sure that you are disposing of water and wastes properly and not polluting the land. Also that you are not raising anything illegal. I think it's like 50 bucks here in Fl, and if you are selling corals or fish this is a state requirement. :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9696121#post9696121 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dwarfpufferfish
Okay jsl6v8 here is your 8 cents change:

Seth BREAKING the law is what caused it all. Sure, posting here is what brought it to the attention of the FWC, but the illeagle activity is what caused the issue.

Now on to other comments.

He DID know it was against the law. Many times he has posted in collecting threads about getting a licence and learning the laws. Even in his first post about this, he said it himself, he knew it was wrong.

I think, 100%, that tax dollars should be spent enforcing laws, regardless of how trivial YOU may think the offence is. Again, I know there are other BIGGER offenders, but it was wrong. And really it doesnt matter how close it was to a reef, FL LAW SAYS NO LIVE ROCK!

Seth,
Dude, it sucks. You messed up. I think the punishment DOES fit the crime. A warning is fair. My comments really are not directed at you at all. You know you screwed up, you are having to deal with it.

I also have my doubts about the "report" myself. My THOUGHTS are they were not over stated nearly as much as we have read.

My single biggest beef here is people flaming the person doing right! It is just like when criminals in jail say "I am only here because of the COPS" and ignore the fact that they are there because they broke the law.

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It's like your beating a dead horse here. We all see your view but you just keep posting and arguing. Do you know how old that gets? If you like badgering kids go to a daycare or something but I don't even know Seth and I am sick of seeing all the negative posts. Go join green peace or do something about the cruise ships dumping all there raw sewage overboard 25 miles off fo our coast, that will make a difference.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9697566#post9697566 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by waterfaller1
Soo..how many people who are & have been doing this have the proper permits you figure?
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About >1% :) A bunch of hipocrits but they didnt know that was the law so that makes it alright, right? :lol:
 
Wow, I had never heard about the Aquaculture certification requirements in Florida (as I've never sold frags), and just went to their website to go reading around. And, after hearing Stoney Mahoney saying that it wasn't that hard to get certified, and being only $50, it seems to be a pretty good deal. Why you ask?

1. $50/year is not very much money to be doing something legally

2. The tax benefits will definitely outweigh the tax implications. Imagine the deductions you could take against that income, salt, maintenance expenses, etc. Heck, I bet you could even depreciate your actual aquarium price as a cost of doing business. (Actually, I know you could)

So, do they define anyone that sells aquacultured coral a "aquaculture farmer" then? What about those people that only sell things once they need to be trimmed back in their tank? This is where I found they needed more clarification on in their laws and statutes.
 
Gonna make our frag auctions much less fun:)

Stoney, what is considered properly disposing of waste salt water? I won't say what I do with mine until I know the legalities...sorry, seth, but thank you for reminding me how lightly we have to tread on sites like this
 
There is actually a difference between aquaculture and coral propagation and fragmentation, though. I've been looking into all of these things for when I start my business...I'll try to find the place where this was defined by the state, but it may take a while. If anyone has the links to it, that would save me some time.
 
I was wondering about that. Like how do you break it down in not-aquaculture but thingsl ike garage sales, ebay sales, what does it come to in getting rid of excess versus the intent of running a business

I'd think there would be or at least should be some clarification in that.
 
Yeah, if somsone can find the laws and rules about all of this, that would be great!

And Craig, i dont think you should worry too much, i mean, THOUSANDS of people write abtou illegal thigns they do without knowing it, and also if they do aswell. The only reason that mine was made into such a big fiasco was becasue somsone had STRONG resent towords me and decided to trash my life. Is there a proper way to dispose water? i mean, it is not like a toxic or biohazardous liquid, or is it? I wont post what i do just in case, but i would like to kow what the right way is, and why (if it is) the water has to be disposed of like that?
 
Well if you're dumping it out on your grass or plants a lot of inland species probably can't tolerate the salt.

I'm not sure if theres anything in it about going into the drain and\or sewer that could be harmful like um oils and what not.

Is it a storefront thing where they have a very large volume of water to have to dump out?
 
Yeah, Seth, but if the snitch is still watching this article, he might have a...let's just say piece of wood(to keep things civil), about ruining people's lives:)
 
Well, Dan and I are kind of the obvious ones to be picked on on because of our age, and InLimbo87 had no legitiment (sp?) reason for hatig me and disliking Dan, especially dan, i think he just didnt like him dor being associated with ME. But that is true, just to be on the safe side, that is the way to go .... Well, just to let you know, "I" wouldnt rat you out Craig! :)
 
Stoney, what is considered properly disposing of waste salt water? I won't say what I do with mine until I know the legalities...sorry, seth, but thank you for reminding me how lightly we have to tread on sites like this
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I believe the recommended disposal routine is to bleach the old water before you dump it. Its not against the law to just dump it, but its good practice if you are concerned about adding any type of invasive species to the environment.
 
From what I just heard(maybe incorrect), you are supposed to have an evap tank to evaporate the water and dispose of the salt. This may just be the recommended way of disposal, or this may not be exactly right, but someone told me that.
 
That sonuds like that would be the right thign to do, actually, when you do that, the water is just as pure as it can get, nad maybe you can put it right back in your tank...??? (IDK?)
 
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