Give me your honest opinion, OK

[MUCHO REEF]

Lets say that there's a guy, a zoa lover whom we'll call "Reefer A." Now this guy Reefer A really loves zoas, I mean he really LOVES ZOAS. Now lets also say this guy wanted to do a series of informative articles on Zoathids, and wanted to post them here weekly or bi monthly. The articles would cover topics that are never or seldom discussed in the Zoanthid forum. The articles would be supported by factual documentation and findings. If this Reefer A guy did this, would he be considered cocky, arrogant, thinks he's a know-it-all, puffing himself up, has the bighead or full of himself? Or, Would you consider him to be just a guy who's trying to share something that is both informative and helpful?

Give me your honest opinion guys/gals.

Mooch

 

[fishfeeder]

I would like to hear some of it...I'm just starting and alot of threads start out good but get way over my head real quick!

It would be good to hear some solid facts that we could refer to instead of having to scan several pages looking for answers!

Maybe one of the mods would sticky it in the Zoathids thread!

Jay

 

[nathansinger]

If this mysterious reefer in question chose to post informative articles, I think that there might be some other zoanthid reefers out there who would consider him a useful resource and be grateful rather than thinking ill of him...

 

[smy168]

as long as what this guys says are facts and not assumptions, I think it would be great, we could use a few more "pros" here since there are so many newbies popping up all the time.

 

[MUCHO REEF]

"The articles would be supported by factual documentation and findings.", not assumptions.

 

[rubysmomma1]

Being knew to collecting zoas, I would like an informative place to read articles with accurate info. As long as "Reefer A" is open to other "zoa pros" correcting him/her if a fact is slightly incorrect.

As a newbie zoa lover, I need all the help I can get!

 

[MUCHO REEF]

Reefer A is not a Zoa Pro, if such a person exist.

Mucho

 

[cwegescheide]

Yeah sure. Sounds good. Seems like a lot of threads get pretty far off track on RC and end up in an exercise in bashing each other. Gotta cut thru a lot of fluff around here to get to some meaningful information. Even if its not entirely correct or the most scientific of research or whatever sharing 'reefer a' experience I think would be beneficial. I think a lot of threads here get started but don't go anywhere either if you know what i mean. Not bashing, I'm guilty of it too.

I say go for it ahem... "Reefer A"

 

[MUCHO REEF]

Ahem.....I never said it was me. I just wanted to ask the question.

A few more questions and then I will reveal where I'm heading with this. Some of you have already made the point I was going to touch upon by page 2.

1. So how do you know what is fact and not assumption? There are many ways in reefing to accomplish and achieve the same results. So how would you know what is factual, even with supportive documentation, and what is assumption?

2. So why do you feel so many topics get off track and before you know it you're discussing the NBA finals and not Zoanthids?

Mooch

 

[vessxpress1]

Mooch, you don't know me, and I don't know you, but I spent a long time reading a few stickys in this forum that were your posts and found them very informative. Posts about the discovery of the nudi eating sea grass wrasse and the zoo dip post are very valuable, interesting, information. Those should answer # 1. You can tell when it's not just bs.
I learned a lot from those posts. IMO, you spend too much time trying to CYA. For the most part, I think everybody's friends here. Anybody that puts that much time into informative posts is a credit to the site in my book. You won't get any criticism from me. I appreciate it. I FW dipped zoos for the first time today because of your post.

Hope 'Reefer A' can compete with the 'Zoo guru'.

Checked out your 03 TOTM thread. Awesome tank!! It looks much larger than a 70. I'd love to see it now. One of the best tanks I've seen.

 

[Azurel]

It would be a major help I would say.....I don't think there is any one that would think Reefer"A" is a snob or arrogant. I say come on with it....What we need is some facts within this realm of corals, plus I'm sure Reefer will need some assistance. I would be willing to help in what ever way I could as I think most people here would.....

 

[smy168]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7519143#post7519143 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MUCHO REEF
Ahem.....I never said it was me. I just wanted to ask the question.

1. So how do you know what is fact and not assumption? There are many ways in reefing to accomplish and achieve the same results. So how would you know what is factual, even with supportive documentation, and what is assumption?

2. So why do you feel so many topics get off track and before you know it you're discussing the NBA finals and not Zoanthids?

Mooch

1. I guess "fact' would have supportive documentation and assumption won't. i can understand that every individual system is unique to what can be successful and what won't but if there is information that can be proven to be substancive then, it should be explained and detailed.

I guess in the end, what works for some won't work for others and we need to be able to accept that and maintain a enthusiastic thread and not a confrontational one.

2. that's all ego, the line here divides those that truly love the hobby or corals with those that just want to be able to show they have the rare finds. i've noticed that in this hobby over the past 3 years. There seems to be more people that are all about what they have or could buy, compared to those that are serious enthusiasts..ok, that's right, I said it so start firing the bullets at me now!

I still think it would be great for the forum as long as debates remain friendly and inquisitive.

 

[surfnvb7]

sounds good to me, but one thing to consider is that alot of the questions people create threads for in this forum, can easily be answered by reading those sticky's at the top of the forum. but i think alot of the time, people want the quick response that doesnt require much reading or research.

so something to consider may be to reformat everything so it can be easily found. otherwise it may just look like more clutter at the top of the page to the uninformed zoanthid pioneer.

HTH

 

[cowcio]

I think that this is a great idea MUCHO.

If the articles could also become discussion topics and questions could be asked about them, it would be even better. We all could learn a lot from "reefer a" and "reefer b"...etc.

 

[cardgenius]

I think it would be great to have new info coming in on the reg. But I do think it would need to be organized like surfnvb7 mentioned.

 

[maggiesaqsup]

I think it is a good idea as long as they can back there self with some kind of documentation. Who do you have in mind,is it someone everyone would respect.

The reason I ask is that there is alot of different ways to do things in this hobby. I look for hands on or some type of documentation.I my self have been led in the wrong direction in the past and it is a painfull learning exp.$$$$$$$$

 

[Mr. Ugly]

Mucho,

I would absolutely love to read these articles!

As far as how the author would be perceived, I think that depends on the tone that comes across in his writing. It really depends on the author and his tone or attitude, regardless of the quality of the info.

If *you* were the one to share articles for example, I would think of it as "just a guy who's trying to share something that is both informative and helpful". That's because I've read your posts and can tell that you are not an arrogant know-it-all.

If jreimer were to post articles, I would welcome those as well. I've not found him to be arrogant etc in his posts either

hth

 

[ficklefins]

Mucho,

I'm all about it. I know that you have been trying for some time to try and branch this forum from the dominated show and tell path it has recently taken.

There is so little documented information on zoas that anybody who is able to provide such data will have their comments appreciated.

There is a new to RC poster on here who I would love to hear more from. J (jreimer) posted a thread regarding the naming convention and it sparked a lot of interest. I spent way too much time reading and rereading his posts that I never got around to posting.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=857295

The only caveat I have is regarding replies to these types of threads. The lack of discussion on some of these indepth conversations isn't as much about interest, but more about limited insight (at least for me). I can try my best to ask questions and site my experience but hopefully the lack replies won't be taken as a lack of interest.

My opinion is that if it can help us to gain a better understanding on what we are keeping then most, if not all, will appreciate the efforts of the poster.

 

[MinibowMatt]

I think as long as the information posted is founded on true experiences by that reefer, and not something he "read/heard about" than it would be welcome. I like hearing about a persons trials. I know that one persons's methods do not always work for the majority though.

The one thing you ask is " will reefer A be looked at as a know-it-all" and the only way I can answer is:
If that person has a track record in this forum, that can substantiate his claims than I would belive him, and not look down at him. What I dont like is a guy who shows up out of nowhere with 62 posts and throws up the post with "gods word on zoanthids" and then gets ****y when people question him...

So Bring it on! Im always up for good info, and I dont believe you(Mucho) would come on here advocating this persons articles if you didnt feel it would be worthwhile.

 

[MarvinsReef]

Re: Give me your honest opinion, OK

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7518887#post7518887 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MUCHO REEF
Lets say that there's a guy, a zoa lover whom we'll call "Reefer A." Now this guy Reefer A really loves zoas, I mean he really LOVES ZOAS. Now lets also say this guy wanted to do a series of informative articles on Zoathids, and wanted to post them here weekly or bi monthly. The articles would cover topics that are never or seldom discussed in the Zoanthid forum. The articles would be supported by factual documentation and findings. If this Reefer A guy did this, would he be considered cocky, arrogant, thinks he's a know-it-all, puffing himself up, has the bighead or full of himself? Or, Would you consider him to be just a guy who's trying to share something that is both informative and helpful?

Give me your honest opinion guys/gals.

Mooch

Reefer A will provide a great service to other zoas enthusiasts... so much better read coz of "The articles would be supported by factual documentation and findings".... and I honestly think that most zoas collectors will appreciate the articles and will find them very useful.. like what others said, some tanks work different than others but if we have some kind of baseline on where to start, that'll promote more interest on others that are hesitant to collect zoas..

I give Reefer A a big thumbs up for wanting to share his/her passion for zoas...

Marvin