got amonia again

Ronny#66

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was going to get a new damsel today had LFS test my water is 0.25 can't figure this out was 0 saturday . Feed very carefully every other day. Is it normal to have some amonia at times. This sems to be reacouring problem. Wonder if it's the rena cal canister just cleaned it two weeks ago and new carbon in it.
 
It is not normal to have ammonia after the cycle unless something big dies.
How much LR is in the tank, and how old is the tank???
 
So what the hck is going on nothig but small damsel last week some snails do 5 gal water change in 25 gal set up weekly.
 
check with your water company. If it is using chloramine instead of chlorine then that can break down into ammonia when passing through the ro/di unit
Test some of your stored water just in case
 
Canister filters tend to build up nutrients such as nitrates and ammonia. For people keeping salt water tanks who are running canister filters I would recommend removing the filter media and replacing it with live rock. I've seen a lot of people have spikes after about 2-3 months when they are running canister filters with media, even when changing media. If its a brand new tank you probably just don't have enough of those beneficial bacteria in there yet, so anything you add to your take that releases ammonia such as fish or fish food will cause a spike because there is nothing there to eat the ammonia up. I recommend also adding some live rock, 1lb+ per gallon will help control those excess nutrients.
 
Na Have three test kits we've went over all this before. Just puzzling that every once in a while it's 0.25 . i didn't trust the LFS that tested it so i tested myself and 0.25.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12965989#post12965989 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ronny#66
Na Have three test kits we've went over all this before. Just puzzling that every once in a while it's 0.25 . i didn't trust the LFS that tested it so i tested myself and 0.25.

Ronny, I just had a conversation with my supplier this morning about the content of our city water. He supplies everything including ponds. One of the things that was happening everyonce and awhile was that guys ponds were getting wiped out over night after a water change
Investigation found out that once a month are city does an extra chlorine ect flush on the entire water system. If you were unlucky enough to hit that day for a water change then you got zapped

Just thought of your case when I heard that.
 
Nope I do water changes on saturday and nothing is done at local treatment plant over weekend. The amonia is being produced in tank some how.
 
Going to try different approach . I have been doing 5 gal water changes every week . I called DR. Foster & Smith Live Aquaria teck suport. And gave her details of all my system . She thought I may be upsetting Bioligical process by doing the 5 gal change every week in the 25 gal . She sugested 3 gal every week or the 5 every other week I'm going to give the every other week. Amonia is .025 right now was going to do the ten gal change but she said 0.25 not a real big deal and we decided to let it be and let the tank just do it's think .If it goes any higher I will do the ten gal change. i've tried everything else and as we know we can go on with this for ever and not pin point cause!!
 
I can't see that being the case, the biological process occurs in your sandbed and liverock. Doing water changes can only help by removing ammonia.

The bacteria is what breaks down the ammonia into harmless byproducts, so by doing water changes your not upsetting anything.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12970335#post12970335 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by vader88
I can't see that being the case, the biological process occurs in your sandbed and liverock. Doing water changes can only help by removing ammonia.

The bacteria is what breaks down the ammonia into harmless byproducts, so by doing water changes your not upsetting anything.

on that note--how much live rock do you have in your tank and how old is the sand bed
 
Well not shure on the amout of live rock tank was purchased 15 months ago look at pics of previous posts it's the same tank no live rack has been added since a year ago. Sand bed not shure but at least same time table with an inch or so added over a year ago. But listen to this tested today and amonia is 0 if i am looking at the color right as we all know your lemonade green and mine can be a little off . yester day it tested 0.25 . I'm going to test with other test kit to make shure. So whats going on.
 
I guese what she was saying takeing out so much water every week was takeing some of bacteria that is obviously in the water.
 
hold the vial against in front of the colour chart. Look through the vial--the colour that matches will be the same so you will not be able to see to different colours--just one
That's a better way of reading the colour charts then side by side matching of the bands
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12972415#post12972415 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ronny#66
I guese what she was saying takeing out so much water every week was takeing some of bacteria that is obviously in the water.

no, the anerobic and aerobic bacteria are not floating in the water column so they will be not removed in a water change.
 
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