Greenbanded Goby (Elacatinus multifasciatus, Gobidion etc..) Breeding Log
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ediaz
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I am so scared when i see replies to your threads, LOL
Sorry did not see this,
For my experience they attach to the glass at about 20-25 days and on with some still pelagic.I don't have my records here but they take a long time to get on artemia. I would not change a thing of what your doing but once they are on artemia theres no need to add phyto, but keep using it if it works what the hell.
Here is the bad thing form my experience and just my expirience gobies take a long time to go to dead foods, i keep mine on artemia for a long time, another thing is that with artemia they grow faster for a fish that takes a long time to grow anyway, if you have otohime start playing with it if you have filtration.
The first one to raise them was Frank, the first one to do it comercially was Bill, and sold lots. Proaquatix raised poop, those were produced at C-quest when they were leasing the place.
I was breeding them for months until my female decided to jump, not gonna do it anymore, theres no money on them.
Congrats, well done, welcome to the very, very exclusive club.
Was about friggin time!!!!!!
Ed
Sorry did not see this,
For my experience they attach to the glass at about 20-25 days and on with some still pelagic.I don't have my records here but they take a long time to get on artemia. I would not change a thing of what your doing but once they are on artemia theres no need to add phyto, but keep using it if it works what the hell.
Here is the bad thing form my experience and just my expirience gobies take a long time to go to dead foods, i keep mine on artemia for a long time, another thing is that with artemia they grow faster for a fish that takes a long time to grow anyway, if you have otohime start playing with it if you have filtration.
The first one to raise them was Frank, the first one to do it comercially was Bill, and sold lots. Proaquatix raised poop, those were produced at C-quest when they were leasing the place.
I was breeding them for months until my female decided to jump, not gonna do it anymore, theres no money on them.
Congrats, well done, welcome to the very, very exclusive club.
Was about friggin time!!!!!!
Ed
mwp
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Thanks for the insight and history Ed 
Just waiting for my desktop to restart itself and I'll be posting up a picture I shot with the QX5 in "handheld" mode. The colored up one I got to shoot was somewhere around 10-11 mm at 28 days. Looks like mine are running a few days behind the growing curve.
Matt
Just waiting for my desktop to restart itself and I'll be posting up a picture I shot with the QX5 in "handheld" mode. The colored up one I got to shoot was somewhere around 10-11 mm at 28 days. Looks like mine are running a few days behind the growing curve.Matt
mwp
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Well, as of this point there was .5 L T-Iso and .5 L Tetraselmis added to the water about an hour before the photos...trying to keep all the brine nauplii and older ones "enriched".
Don't want to screw up meta...I've literally only done a small handfull of water changes prior to this, and will put off the next one as long as I can to not cause undue stress.
Ed, if I'm not supposed to tell anyone, why you posting it here?
Matt
Don't want to screw up meta...I've literally only done a small handfull of water changes prior to this, and will put off the next one as long as I can to not cause undue stress.
Ed, if I'm not supposed to tell anyone, why you posting it here?
Matt
mwp
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It feels GREAT Luis. I gotta say, that little bugger is stayin' RIGHT HERE to make our next pair (short goby lifespans and all). I am totally in love...definitely rivals any clownfish baby for cuteness (provided you like GBG's in the first place I guess). Of course, I can hardly wait for the next 10 or 20 to settle out...can't wait to have a TANKFUL of those!
Seeing a 1/3" baby GBG REALLY has me giddy over the future prospect of tiny mandarins
Matt
Seeing a 1/3" baby GBG REALLY has me giddy over the future prospect of tiny mandarins
Matt
mwp
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Quick update, as we're just past 28.5 days, I bit the bullet and did a water change.....more of a "removal" and dilution. 5 gallons out, including the bottom completely cleaned up (lots of small brown "piles" on the bottom). 2 clean gallons going in back in; total tank volume will be around 6 when it's all done. There's just so many rotifers and brine shrimp in various stages of development - things need to be a little more under control while I'm away this weekend and Renee is in charge.
Our 2 fully settled larvae are of course spending most all their time in the one corner of the tank that you literally can't observe...there are still a good 5-10 that look like they could settle at any moment, and 2 more have developed faint eye stripes over the course of the day.
That's the news!
Matt
Our 2 fully settled larvae are of course spending most all their time in the one corner of the tank that you literally can't observe...there are still a good 5-10 that look like they could settle at any moment, and 2 more have developed faint eye stripes over the course of the day.
That's the news!
Matt
mwp
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AHA! I found 'em. At any given moment, there are typically 4 or 5 larvae in the far back corner of the tank, visible only from the other end of the tank. Now that the water is a bit clearer, the BEST count I had was SEVEN (7) juvies sitting on the glass all at the same time. It seems like they're "learning" to use that suction cup. They also seem a bit more frantic about swimming, and definitely seem to prefer a stronger current area. Furthermore, the larvae seem unaffected by the rather strong stream of bubbles flowing out of the airstone...I've witnessed several trips "through" the bubbles ala Mt. Wanahakalugi...they seem totally unphased.
So, my best count is 7 settled larvae, only 2 showing adult coloration at this time, about 28.7 days post hatch.
Matt
So, my best count is 7 settled larvae, only 2 showing adult coloration at this time, about 28.7 days post hatch.
Matt
mwp
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Well Diane, I think the SS rots may have made the big difference with these and my letpacanthus, so try to procure some! Other than that, was just making sure to absolutely keep up with the daily morning 1L phytoplankton addition, following Ed's advice. Needless to say it worked - all day there were 6 GBG's settled and hanging out on the sides of the tank...2 with adult coloration. I haven't checked yet this evening...I bet there's a few more by morning!
Matt
Matt
mwp
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29.7 days or so - 8 are now settled!
BTW Diane...I think having a good copepod population in the tank helped. I have tiggerpods, as well as some tiny whiteish benthic pod (the kind you see on a reef tank's walls sometimes), and threw in just a few Acartia tonsa...not that they were necessary but I pulled out all the stops on this batch of GBG's...it's definitely "paying off"..
Matt
BTW Diane...I think having a good copepod population in the tank helped. I have tiggerpods, as well as some tiny whiteish benthic pod (the kind you see on a reef tank's walls sometimes), and threw in just a few Acartia tonsa...not that they were necessary but I pulled out all the stops on this batch of GBG's...it's definitely "paying off"..
Matt
mwp
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Diane, they're eating pods slightly larger than rotifers for the most part!
So Renee was in charge this weekend while I was off winning a fly fishing tourament She did a SPLENDID JOB!
33 days! - I got what I believe is a fair headcount this evening...here's what I came home to find.
11 GBGs fully settled and metamorphised showing adult coloration (UBER COOL!)
1 GBG settled but still silvery
6 GBGs still in the water column.
FREAKIN' SWEET! 4 are spoken for, the rest of you can start callin' dibs!
Matt
So Renee was in charge this weekend while I was off winning a fly fishing tourament
She did a SPLENDID JOB!33 days! - I got what I believe is a fair headcount this evening...here's what I came home to find.
11 GBGs fully settled and metamorphised showing adult coloration (UBER COOL!)
1 GBG settled but still silvery
6 GBGs still in the water column.
FREAKIN' SWEET! 4 are spoken for, the rest of you can start callin' dibs!
Matt
Anderson,
You're right, that's an important distinction we mustn't forget. I was actually thinking of the copepods that I have in my nano, though--and they are a bit larger than bbs, I believe, though still tiny...BTW, I recently had a bloom of teeny ISOpods no bigger than the copepods.
But all of these look huge compared to the goby larvae. I had not realized one could order smaller copepods...cool! And if these can somewhat eliminate the need to raise Artemia, so much the better.
Congrats on your continued success, Matt! BTW, have the parents continued to breed? Would it be possible to raise many broods at a time, labor-and-facilities-wise?
--Diane
You're right, that's an important distinction we mustn't forget. I was actually thinking of the copepods that I have in my nano, though--and they are a bit larger than bbs, I believe, though still tiny...BTW, I recently had a bloom of teeny ISOpods no bigger than the copepods.
But all of these look huge compared to the goby larvae. I had not realized one could order smaller copepods...cool! And if these can somewhat eliminate the need to raise Artemia, so much the better.
Congrats on your continued success, Matt! BTW, have the parents continued to breed? Would it be possible to raise many broods at a time, labor-and-facilities-wise?
--Diane
