BreadmanMike
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It's good looking froth isn't it? 
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jeffreylam1132
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Nice..........I love it!!!! Are you skimming wet or dry?
BreadmanMike
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I'm not using the air valves, so it's a sort of a wet skimmate.
I want to jump on a BM250, but Ed keeps talking me out of it lol. I'm just nervous about all the bad things I read about the aquabees as they get older.
I want to jump on a BM250, but Ed keeps talking me out of it lol. I'm just nervous about all the bad things I read about the aquabees as they get older.
jeffreylam1132
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Can always upgrade to the eheim pumps. 
BreadmanMike
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HaHa! I just got the cube. I'll be in divorce court if I get a bigger tank. I'd love to get the in sump 250-2x1260 though...
Jeffery,
I think when I get enough saved up I'll get the 250-2x1260. Hopefully this skimmer will last another 9 months or so.
Reef Sponger
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I had the same concerns about the Aquabee pumps, so that's why I really wanted a custom short A200 like JeffLam's. That is my ideal skimmer and JeffLam bought it. Well, Ed told me that he had no concerns about the H&S Aquabee as not one single owner has complained about them failing or having problems. At least not one of his customers and I haven't seen any postings on the H&S/Fins Reef forum. The main problems with Aquabee pumps are all on Deltec skimmers and calcium reactors. They fail and DeltecUSA seem to ignore their cry for help, almost like avoiding the tons of Aquabee pump problems. So, I don't think you have anything to worry about. And even if you were the exception and had a pump failure, it's $159 to replace, not $375 plus highly marked up s/h/i (that's another Deltec issue in progress on their forum).
BreadmanMike
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Great point. It is always the Deltec skimmers and reactors with the aquabee problems. I wonder why that is?
Reef Sponger
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I think the Deltec owners were questioning the extensive modifications that Deltec did to their Aquabee pumps and whether they are more prone to long term failure rate now. And expensive, $375 plus highly marked up s/h/i. As for their calcium reactor Aquabees, I believe it has something to do with the fluidized calcium material that they are using and it sticks to the inside of the pumps really easy. Need to be cleaned & maintained monthly to avoid any problems is what I can best guess. That's a lot of work if you ask me. I think quarterly is too much already.<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9934210#post9934210 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquaticman74
Great point. It is always the Deltec skimmers and reactors with the aquabee problems. I wonder why that is?
Reef Sponger
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This is for a 240g plus I'm sure you have a sump? Isn't it too small, surprised that Ed would recommend such a small skimmer, unless your bioload is light. I was considering this skimmer for my 180g.
jeffreylam1132
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I'll have a sump, but not sure if I'm going to put this monster in the sump. I thought about this being a little small for my size tank, but then again, I'll probably have a light load. I guess we'll put this skimmer to test and see how hard it's going to work.
Zoom
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I never had any problems with my 601 Deltec Calcium reactor with the Aquabee pump i clean it every six months with out taking the reactor down i never yet had to empty my Deltec reactor i just add Media on the top. i have a large sponge on the top of the fluidize reactor that i clean when i add media about six months or so . I had no media in to my aquabee pump yet .
The reactor is now two+ years old . The Deltec reactor that i have is full of dust under the tank i almost never touch it.
You always talk crap about Deltec but you never own one. I do have the whole line of deltec equipment and never had any problems with any of them .
I like the H&S i think they make excellent product , the only thing i don't like about some of the skimmer is they don't fill the whole skimmer column with bubbles but they still work very well.
Reef Sponger
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I am not deliberately talking crap as you say, to irritate or offend you. I am just repeating what I've read in many threads and posts on the Deltec forum (their own forum) about problems owners are having with the Deltec version of the Aquabee pumps. In researching throughout the Filtration equipment forum, I have seen posts after posts warning hobbyists to stay away from Aquabee pumps. This definitely concerned me about the H&S version as well. But the dealer I purchased from is an authorized dealer for both Deltec and H&S equipment and he wasn't aware that one single complaint about H&S Aquabee pump, this is fact. So, based on his recommendaton for my system, I ended up downsizing to a smaller skimmer with the Aquabee pump and believe me, this was not what I was looking for or initially wanted. I'm sorry if you feel offended as I certainly don't have you in mind when I post about Deltec. It's just that's what my research discovered on the Deltec forum about Deltec high costs of replacement parts and very mixed reviews about customer service, leads me to stay away from Deltec equipment. I don't have to own a piece of Deltec equipment to know that there's some problems going on in the Deltec forum. Right now, I have no intentions of buying a piece of Deltec equipment and it would be very difficult for Ed (my skimmer dealer) to talk me into buying a piece of Deltec equipment. BTW, my next skimmer is a ATi Bubblemaster 160, not even a H&S even though I think very highly of H&S skimmers. Sorry Zoom to offend you.
Reef Sponger
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The A150 is perfect for my 180g because of my bioload and feeding habits. The BM160 will go on a 75g Anemone tank with a family of Rodonyx clowns. No space for the A150 on the 75g. Only choosing the BM160 because of very limited space and I think it has a edge over the A110. This is my thought process for now.
Also, base on what I'm getting and the performance of the A150 on my current tank, the A200 would have probably been overkill. I'm starting to understand how important it is to work with someone that has a wide experience with a lot of different skimmers and understands how each behaves and works with what types of setups. I have read about so many owners buying A200s for too small of a tank, so I can see how proper sizing works great continuously.
Also, base on what I'm getting and the performance of the A150 on my current tank, the A200 would have probably been overkill. I'm starting to understand how important it is to work with someone that has a wide experience with a lot of different skimmers and understands how each behaves and works with what types of setups. I have read about so many owners buying A200s for too small of a tank, so I can see how proper sizing works great continuously.
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Reef Sponger
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I empty every 5-7 days, skimming very wet. No, it doesn't ever stop working that I notice, always a good foamhead hitting the top cover everytime I look at the skimmer. I don't turn it off, running 24/7. The skimmer has slow down collection since the beginning. Earlier I needed to empty every 4-5 days. Just assuming that it's almost caught.
Jim_S
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I was just curious as to how well it was staying on top of that sized body of water.
If you never see it running idle, then it hasn't really "caught up" to the system, but if you're only emptying it every 5-7 days, you must have a pretty low bioload, so it kinda balances out
I like to see my skimmers running idle at least part of the week, it lets me know that there isn't anymore it can be doing for my tank
Everyone has different reef keeping habbits, with different goals in mind, thats one of the best parts of this hobby!
About that BM160, won't having to pull the skimmer out of the sump, and taking it apart just to get at the pump drive you nuts????
I read about some people having start up issues. That would drive me crazy having to go back and forth until it works!
I was just curious as to how well it was staying on top of that sized body of water.
If you never see it running idle, then it hasn't really "caught up" to the system, but if you're only emptying it every 5-7 days, you must have a pretty low bioload, so it kinda balances out
I like to see my skimmers running idle at least part of the week, it lets me know that there isn't anymore it can be doing for my tank
Everyone has different reef keeping habbits, with different goals in mind, thats one of the best parts of this hobby!
About that BM160, won't having to pull the skimmer out of the sump, and taking it apart just to get at the pump drive you nuts????
I read about some people having start up issues. That would drive me crazy having to go back and forth until it works!
Reef Sponger
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Probably initially the BM160 may be frustrating, especially if for any reason the pump isn't set correctly. But once running properly, my skimmer dealer says that all his local owners haven't really had to do any cleaning in the last 6 months. Apparently, because that the pumps spins strong and the material doesn't collect anything as most would think that it will, so every 3-4 months when his customers have taken the pump out to check, nothing, it's been clean. That might be a good question for the BM info thread, I'm going to pose that question there about routine cleaning. I hear the skimmer is really compact and very easy to pull out. Hoping that reinstalling the pump is easier with the BM160 than the BM150 that I've seen horror stories on.
My skimmer dealer recommended the A110, but I thought the capacity was cutting it too close and the footprint was still tight for my sump. I figure the closet skimmer to the BM160 in terms of performance must be the Deltec APF600, but at half the cost.
My skimmer dealer recommended the A110, but I thought the capacity was cutting it too close and the footprint was still tight for my sump. I figure the closet skimmer to the BM160 in terms of performance must be the Deltec APF600, but at half the cost.
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