Hair algae gone, but here's 2 others that have replaced. Need suggestions

Brian DeGolier

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I have made an ATS which has really helped with my hair algae problem. The nitrates and phospahtes are always 0, because this and other algaes are consuming it very fast and gives a 0 reading. I have sold my diadema urchin back to the LFS because there was no more algae and it was starting to eat my zoanthids. My snails have started to die because of the lack of algae or perhaps from consuming a film mentioned below. Success with the ATS right?

The first picture, this stuff has broken out in my aquarium recently, but this stuff comes out in the morning when the house lights and sunlight fills the house. Then will start to recede as the aquarium lights come on at 14:00, (they shut off at 22:00) According to Julian Sprung's book, I believe it's Gambierdiscus, a common dinoflagellate and common in new or biologically unstable aquariums. I'm certain my aquarium is biologically stable, but I have purposely stopped my wc's to let it run it's course and help the ATS. It's a filamentous material but I cannot microzoom with my camera. I'm considering trying Chemi-clean if it is a protein based film, but I want to explore other options.

The second picture is a hairy algae that has not been much affected by the ATS and I was hoping that it too would've gone away. From Sprung's book, I believe it's Derbesia, I don't thinks it's Bryopsis. The snails don't seem to touch it, my blenny who recently died after 6 years didn't touch it. One rock I will pull out and put in an 5 gallon unlit aquarium, with lower SG, maybe try some peroxide or algaefix. The other more permanent rocks, I would like to find a way to get rid of this stuff without disrupting too much. Perhaps now is a good time to get a dwarf angel, although I only have a 55 gallon and the fish all play very nice and would like to keep it that way. I tried a Reinfordi goby, after 2 weeks I could not locate it. Perhaps another blenny? I have a few turban and chestnut turban snails, and Astrea's, and the burrowing Nassarius snails and some hermit crabs. I try not to buy too many snails since they seem to die in my aquarium if I buy a lot at one time. Basically for the algae, I'm looking for suggestions on how to control with an animal that eats that type of algae. I should mention, I've also tried the lights out method and did not really seem to work, I'll try it again.
 

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You're not going to find an animal that will fix your problem. You already have a tank full of "clean up crue" critters, and as usual, they're not helping.
You have a compost pile on the bottom of the tank, fertilizing the algae. Remove this rot and decay, and the algae will die off. The key to algae control is nutrient control. Your DSB (AKA compost pile) is feeding nutrients to the algae. You will continue to have prolific algae growth until the system is cleaned up.
HTH
EC
 
leave it alone...the tank is undergoing changes from the change to the ATS.. this means nutrients bound in your substrate and rocks are still adjusting(leaching) and algae is happening at the source...so, leave it alone and let the tank work it's way to stability as the rocks and substrate's bound nutrients get used up.
 
^yup ....
not saying you are, but after trolling here on RC for a while, I think too many people sorta panic at the sight of algae ...

From reading your post, it appears one type is sorta variable/dynamic in growth and that tells me its no big deal....

I wish I knew all the assorted species of algae, but there are actually some that equate to a normal/healthy tank....

if push comes to shove; check out that nano thread on peroxide; it sure as heck helped me
 
Oh, I do also agree with elegance coral as well... the dsb could probably use a good cleaning/removal.
 
Don't know about the sand but I had a burst of green on my rocks when I first got my ATS running but it went away after about 2 weeks. Mine was not as bad as what you got though.
 
leave it alone...the tank is undergoing changes from the change to the ATS.. this means nutrients bound in your substrate and rocks are still adjusting(leaching) and algae is happening at the source...so, leave it alone and let the tank work it's way to stability as the rocks and substrate's bound nutrients get used up.

The brown slime at the bottom did occur after the introduction of the ATS, it's also in other parts of the tank including the live rock at the top and in the back, in that shot is the highest concentration. I definately would not rule out some issue with the 3 inch sand bed though. thanks for the reply.
 
You're not going to find an animal that will fix your problem. You already have a tank full of "clean up crue" critters, and as usual, they're not helping.
You have a compost pile on the bottom of the tank, fertilizing the algae. Remove this rot and decay, and the algae will die off. The key to algae control is nutrient control. Your DSB (AKA compost pile) is feeding nutrients to the algae. You will continue to have prolific algae growth until the system is cleaned up.
HTH
EC

The algae appeared there approximately a year before the brown slime, it just grows very slowly and I thought it would eventually go away. Are you saying that becuase of the close proximity to the algae could be fertilizing it directly. As far as the compost pile, do you think it could be protein based or algae based? I just hate messin' the sandbed, and I have disturbed it several times over the years. On the other side I removed "most" of the slime and added course gravel on top to keep the sand from blowing around from the MP-10's and luckily it has not come back too much, there's traces of it once in awhile. Anyway, I will remove the slime and see what happens. thanks.
 
^yup ....
not saying you are, but after trolling here on RC for a while, I think too many people sorta panic at the sight of algae ...

From reading your post, it appears one type is sorta variable/dynamic in growth and that tells me its no big deal....

I wish I knew all the assorted species of algae, but there are actually some that equate to a normal/healthy tank....

if push comes to shove; check out that nano thread on peroxide; it sure as heck helped me

I am intrigued by the peroxide idea, I would just need to remove the main piece of rock since I do have xenia in the tank and the clown fish host with it. Apparently peroxide is a good method of removing xenia. Thanks
 
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