Has anyone else noticed negative effects on certain livestock? I started using AlgaeFix Marine to help control an HA outbreak and (only) my Astrea and Turbo snails have basically stopped in place and haven't moved since the first dose. They're still alive, just not moving around or eating. My lone shrimp is also acting lethargic and isn't eating. The weird thing is that all the hermits and the cerith snails, along with everything else (all corals, my clam and fish) seem totally normal. Strange...
Hair Algae Solution That Worked For Me
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firebirdude
User and Abuser
I wouldn't say I've noticed negative effects. (I even have some Astrea snails) But it sure as hell hasn't helped. My lighting cycle is down so low, my SPS is BRIGHT white colored, I run phosban and chemi-pure elite, I feed so little I'm worried about my fish dying, and I do water changes once a week..... GHA is still winning. I'm a small step from ripping the tank down and selling out.
HighlandReefer
Team RC
Firebirdude,
I have not gone back through this thread thoroughly. Have you provided a quality picture of your pest yet? How long have you been dosing AlgaeFix? I assume you are at zero nitrates and phosphates for quite a while now? I suspect you are having problems with something other than a green algae, like cyano, bryopsis or possibly dinoflagellates. These pests are much harder to gain control of. I assume that you are removing as much of this pest as possible during the treatment process?
I have not gone back through this thread thoroughly. Have you provided a quality picture of your pest yet? How long have you been dosing AlgaeFix? I assume you are at zero nitrates and phosphates for quite a while now? I suspect you are having problems with something other than a green algae, like cyano, bryopsis or possibly dinoflagellates. These pests are much harder to gain control of. I assume that you are removing as much of this pest as possible during the treatment process?
firebirdude
User and Abuser
I've got my share of cyano too. Hair algae and green cyano. I bought algaefix... geez... a month and a half ago? Maybe two months.
Yes we are short on end result pic here. Many start and have actually seen positive affects but some fail to post final pics
I have GHA and bubble algae problem (will this work on bubble algae?).
I am going to order this product tonight and give it a shot. I get the notion that
it may help to keep as much of the product in the water as possible. Carbon, phosban and water changes may slow down the effects of the product.
This is what I'll be doing:
- Do scheduled partial water change
- Remove chaeto from fuge
- No carbon
- No phosban
- Dose every 72 hours - right before lights out
- Shut off skimmer before dosing and restart in morning
- Water change before dose #4 to remove loose HA from tank
I'll probably start within the next 2 weeks. I'll post before and after pics.
Background:
I've been battling bubble and HA for close to a year now. Cyrano blossoms from time to time. Water readings are good. Masked by algae growth no doubt. I have reduced feeding, lighting to no avail. I removed the sand because I thought that was the source of the problem. The algae still persists.
I have GHA and bubble algae problem (will this work on bubble algae?).
I am going to order this product tonight and give it a shot. I get the notion that
it may help to keep as much of the product in the water as possible. Carbon, phosban and water changes may slow down the effects of the product.
This is what I'll be doing:
- Do scheduled partial water change
- Remove chaeto from fuge
- No carbon
- No phosban
- Dose every 72 hours - right before lights out
- Shut off skimmer before dosing and restart in morning
- Water change before dose #4 to remove loose HA from tank
I'll probably start within the next 2 weeks. I'll post before and after pics.
Background:
I've been battling bubble and HA for close to a year now. Cyrano blossoms from time to time. Water readings are good. Masked by algae growth no doubt. I have reduced feeding, lighting to no avail. I removed the sand because I thought that was the source of the problem. The algae still persists.
rhunter513
New member
I just did my last dose - #8. I will be doing a water change in two days and then after that I will post new pics. I have had good results, most of the algae is brown and dying BUT I have to harvest it to get it all out of the tank. I will post update pics and you will see a huge difference.
I think the problem with this thread is people who are having negative results or have had the algae come back are not posting anymore.
I think the problem with this thread is people who are having negative results or have had the algae come back are not posting anymore.
JByrd
New member
My experince on this product goes like this....
I purchased it from Drs. F&S maybe 2 months ago, like alot of other people I have only read these posts and not participated in the forum until know.
After the 5th dose I did start to see some results, Now I am on 11 or 12, lost track. I have started to see some stress (alittle) on my pink birdsnest. I stopped dosing last Monday. Did 2 water changes in the last week (10 gal each) and the birdsnest has returned to normal.
As far as the GHA goes it is still there....as much of a strong hold, no!! Before the HA was really light and fluffy waving in the current now it is more dense looking and almost clumpy looking and is brown on the ends with air bubbles all over it.
The bubbles all over it puzzle me because it never had that look before. If anyone can add their 2 cents to that it would be appreciated!!!
I did forget one thing I did purchase a TLF Phosban reactor at the same time. Now wether the Algaefix has made a difference or the Reactor I can not answer that.
I am gonna wait till the middle of next week and start dosing again to see if I can knock it out this time while it looks weak.
I purchased it from Drs. F&S maybe 2 months ago, like alot of other people I have only read these posts and not participated in the forum until know.
After the 5th dose I did start to see some results, Now I am on 11 or 12, lost track. I have started to see some stress (alittle) on my pink birdsnest. I stopped dosing last Monday. Did 2 water changes in the last week (10 gal each) and the birdsnest has returned to normal.
As far as the GHA goes it is still there....as much of a strong hold, no!! Before the HA was really light and fluffy waving in the current now it is more dense looking and almost clumpy looking and is brown on the ends with air bubbles all over it.
The bubbles all over it puzzle me because it never had that look before. If anyone can add their 2 cents to that it would be appreciated!!!
I did forget one thing I did purchase a TLF Phosban reactor at the same time. Now wether the Algaefix has made a difference or the Reactor I can not answer that.
I am gonna wait till the middle of next week and start dosing again to see if I can knock it out this time while it looks weak.
RumLad
New member
I just added dose 5 this morning. So far I would say the results are on the positive side more so than negative. I have seen what appears to be a slowing of the growth and an easier time with manual removal. I have not seen any negative affects on any livestock. A quick miracle cure it is not, but I am hopeful the treatment is working.
I will add one more opinion, especially as it relates to this thread. We have to realize that the posters here all have very different systems and have been doing different treatments as we also use this product. Some have been dosing with other products, some have added or removed carbon, phosban etc. Some have done water changes, skipped water changes, reduced feedings etc.. It is hard to tell which process is either hurting or helping the AlgaeFix product. Myself, I have done nothing different up until now. Oh, and I will post some pictures soon.
I will add one more opinion, especially as it relates to this thread. We have to realize that the posters here all have very different systems and have been doing different treatments as we also use this product. Some have been dosing with other products, some have added or removed carbon, phosban etc. Some have done water changes, skipped water changes, reduced feedings etc.. It is hard to tell which process is either hurting or helping the AlgaeFix product. Myself, I have done nothing different up until now. Oh, and I will post some pictures soon.
rhunter513
New member
I never intended to go passed 8 doses concecutively - sorry if I wasn't clear on that. I will let the tank recover for a few weeks and then start dosing again if need be.
It's not the negative effects on the livestock that i am concerned with. In fact, in all reality this chemical has to have some negative effects just by its very nature. What I want to see is if the HA comes back after completely killing it with algaefix. I want to see those results.
Judging by what I am seeing with my tank, i conclude that algaefix is a very effective tool at getting control of very large HA infestation, which might help me figure out why the infestation happened and how to prevent it from happening again.
...pics to come in a few days...
It's not the negative effects on the livestock that i am concerned with. In fact, in all reality this chemical has to have some negative effects just by its very nature. What I want to see is if the HA comes back after completely killing it with algaefix. I want to see those results.
Judging by what I am seeing with my tank, i conclude that algaefix is a very effective tool at getting control of very large HA infestation, which might help me figure out why the infestation happened and how to prevent it from happening again.
...pics to come in a few days...
I hope my post didn't seem harsh. I appreciate all the work and testing the early posters have done. In fact, it has given me a little more re-assurance to use this product in my tank. I think like most of you, I hate to add chemicals to my tank.
Thanks again for sharing. I'll post my findings after I start.
Cheers.
Thanks again for sharing. I'll post my findings after I start.
Cheers.
Paul_PSU
In Memoriam
agent 007, even though I had very bad results and lost coral to this there have been many with good results. I didn't feel your post was harsh. I was just pointing out that some of did post negative results. I honestly think we may be the only 3 so far that have had negative results. I did get "some" results as far as slowing the growth but not killing it off. I still believe it was vodka dosing for me that somehow negated the effect of the Algaefix. I do think that anyone that is up over 10 doses should be very careful as that was when I started to see the stress on my coral. For the birdsnest it was too late.
firebirdude
User and Abuser
Read through the thread. We've had mixed results with the Cheato. Seems if anything shows adverse effects first, it's the Cheato. Some have had no problems though.
I'm at 5 doses and the growth rate seems to have slowed, but the GHA is definitely not dying by any measure, at least not yet. However, two snails (an Astrea and a Turbo) and my Coral Banded Shrimp died within a week of starting the dosing at 3 day intervals. Maybe it was just coincidence, but the ones that died were all long time residents (about a year) in the tank with no signs of illness before looking sick after the first dose....
