Hawaiian Reefers
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YOU GUYS ROCK... (no pun intended)`
YOU GUYS ROCK... (no pun intended)`
I am so stoked to have found you guys!!! Somebody mentioned the club thing... lets do it, I am in. I live in Aiea and have a way to get a good FOWLR tank going, totally legal, but it take a long time. I am looking for Zoo's. Anyone feel free to PM me and I will send my cell number. I have made pretty good friends with Wally as well, cool cat. I currently have my 120 jammin with plenty of rock and sand. One bucket at a time and months and months to wait for the coralline. (you can take coral rubble seaward from the shore, one gallon) with that you can seed the coralline on dead rock - then ditch the rubble if desired. Lanikai or Bellows is the best place for live sand (again 1 gallon at a time) the live sand in turn seeds the rock, inverts are ok to take. I have spoken with Domingo several times on these matters as I cannot afford to get into trouble (security clearance, which I am sure is a concern for some of you as well). Anyway, I have all the statutes and have spoke with Dept of Ag and DLNR extensively. I feel your guys pain.
PM ME! I am so happy to have reefers on Oahu!!! I’m talking barbeque my place yall!
Cheers,
Don
If you haven't already check out WetWebMedia and Lifereef... the only websites i need (other than this one now!)
YOU GUYS ROCK... (no pun intended)`
I am so stoked to have found you guys!!! Somebody mentioned the club thing... lets do it, I am in. I live in Aiea and have a way to get a good FOWLR tank going, totally legal, but it take a long time. I am looking for Zoo's. Anyone feel free to PM me and I will send my cell number. I have made pretty good friends with Wally as well, cool cat. I currently have my 120 jammin with plenty of rock and sand. One bucket at a time and months and months to wait for the coralline. (you can take coral rubble seaward from the shore, one gallon) with that you can seed the coralline on dead rock - then ditch the rubble if desired. Lanikai or Bellows is the best place for live sand (again 1 gallon at a time) the live sand in turn seeds the rock, inverts are ok to take. I have spoken with Domingo several times on these matters as I cannot afford to get into trouble (security clearance, which I am sure is a concern for some of you as well). Anyway, I have all the statutes and have spoke with Dept of Ag and DLNR extensively. I feel your guys pain.
PM ME! I am so happy to have reefers on Oahu!!! I’m talking barbeque my place yall!
Cheers,
Don
If you haven't already check out WetWebMedia and Lifereef... the only websites i need (other than this one now!)
bboy aqua
New member
just letting u guys know something about the zoos at modern pets
there not actually zoos there palys(palythoa)
zoos dont get as big as palys and the palys at modern get pretty big in diameter
also i can tell they are pallys because of the neck
zoos dont have necks or they have very short ones but palys are much longer
i even got alot of people from reefcentral to help me id them and everyone said their palys
just thought id shared this with the 808 peeps
there not actually zoos there palys(palythoa)
zoos dont get as big as palys and the palys at modern get pretty big in diameter
also i can tell they are pallys because of the neck
zoos dont have necks or they have very short ones but palys are much longer
i even got alot of people from reefcentral to help me id them and everyone said their palys
just thought id shared this with the 808 peeps
The are legal methods to have live rock in your aquarium - nodea's mentioned one. Conceivably, you could also collect trash (bottles, cans, snorkels, etc) with coralline algae on it and use it to seed your tank. There are also plenty of coral chunks that wash up on shore and are fresh enough to be useful in aquariums.
The "no live rock" rule is designed to prevent people from exporting live rock commercially. This IMO is a very destructive activity and I'm glad people aren't allowed to do it. In reality, though, nobody cares much about our personal aquariums and there are no "live rock police" who will come to your house and interrogate you about the rocks in your tank. Most people just grab a couple rocks from the beach when setting up a new aquarium (not that I'm advocating this).
Despite the regulations against coral and live rock, I think Hawaii is a great place to have an aquarium. There's no need for temperature control and salt water is easy to get. Everything in my aquarium is self-caught; I've never bought a fish in my life and I can't imagine ever doing so. There are plenty of invertebrates available (feather dusters, zoos, algae, etc) to make a tank look good, so not being allowed to keep corals doesn't bother me.
The "no live rock" rule is designed to prevent people from exporting live rock commercially. This IMO is a very destructive activity and I'm glad people aren't allowed to do it. In reality, though, nobody cares much about our personal aquariums and there are no "live rock police" who will come to your house and interrogate you about the rocks in your tank. Most people just grab a couple rocks from the beach when setting up a new aquarium (not that I'm advocating this).
Despite the regulations against coral and live rock, I think Hawaii is a great place to have an aquarium. There's no need for temperature control and salt water is easy to get. Everything in my aquarium is self-caught; I've never bought a fish in my life and I can't imagine ever doing so. There are plenty of invertebrates available (feather dusters, zoos, algae, etc) to make a tank look good, so not being allowed to keep corals doesn't bother me.
But since the general category of these organisms are zoanthids, does it really make a difference whether we call them zoos or palys?
Most of the invertebrate books talk about this type of organism as the zoanthids (Family Zoanthidae) and then talk about Zoanthus sp., Palythoa sp., Protopalythoa sp. (reference Fenner, "Corals of Hawaii", p. 89).
Let's not get too caught up in the nomenclature - we all know what we're talking about
Spleen
Most of the invertebrate books talk about this type of organism as the zoanthids (Family Zoanthidae) and then talk about Zoanthus sp., Palythoa sp., Protopalythoa sp. (reference Fenner, "Corals of Hawaii", p. 89).
Let's not get too caught up in the nomenclature - we all know what we're talking about
Spleen
Exactly!!!!
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8411020#post8411020 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by spleen93
But since the general category of these organisms are zoanthids, does it really make a difference whether we call them zoos or palys?
Most of the invertebrate books talk about this type of organism as the zoanthids (Family Zoanthidae) and then talk about Zoanthus sp., Palythoa sp., Protopalythoa sp. (reference Fenner, "Corals of Hawaii", p. 89).
Let's not get too caught up in the nomenclature - we all know what we're talking about
Spleen
I've never checked. But, the temperature in my apartment right now is 78 degrees, and I don't think my tank can be more than 1-2 degrees hotter than that. The ocean here ranges between 75 degrees in the winter to 82 degrees in the summer, so it's perfect for keeping Hawaiian fish.
I don't think you'd need a chiller unless your tank gets direct sunlight or has a powerful lighting system. Or maybe if you want to keep deep-water species that prefer cooler water.
I don't think you'd need a chiller unless your tank gets direct sunlight or has a powerful lighting system. Or maybe if you want to keep deep-water species that prefer cooler water.
I've had a 55G tank in the past that had 2x175 watt MHs on it (old style reef) with 2x40 watt actinics AND also got some direct sunlight in the morning and until I put a chiller on it, it was consistently running around 82-84 degrees. Hard to keep anything but fish in that tank until the chiller went in. 
I have a live rock tank outside right now with no lighting except sunlight - goes easily up to 85 degrees in the afternoon. Grows aiptasia REALLY well, LOL.
Spleen
I have a live rock tank outside right now with no lighting except sunlight - goes easily up to 85 degrees in the afternoon. Grows aiptasia REALLY well, LOL.
Spleen
RC Anemone
New member
Someone should ask this guy to join the club. His setup is awesome, was in a mag and featured on euroreef. He's from hawaii.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=707872
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=428898
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=707872
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=428898
RC Anemone
New member
Yup, he lives in town. I wonder why he doesn't show pics of it filled? Hmmmmm... :lol:<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8414462#post8414462 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by spleen93
Huh, never realized that Snap-On was in Hawaii. I've been admiring his tank for a long time - though still awaiting the pics of it actually filled.
Spleen
fantastic4
New member
What is it like living in Hawaii? That seems like paradise compared to Los Angeles living. Do you miss the mainland at all?
Roll221
Premium Member
OK, this is soooo cool. You guys are causing me to go into Reef Relapse!! When I left Arizona I though my reef keeping days were going into suspended animation for three years till I get back to the mainland. It is a shame that I would consider not retiring here for the sole reason I can not keep a full blown reef. But now "Maybe Not"
I agree with what "nodea717" (I'm up for BB'Q) and "RGBMatt" said about seeding your beach rock. I found a McDonald’s toy while diving two weeks ago, it was totally covered in coralline. I thought.... I could take that scrape it off put it in a tank with "dead" rock throw on some actinic VHOs on it, keep the ALK high and the coralline will grow like a weed.
I love the club idea, I spoke with Bob Fenner at IMAC this year and I am sure he would come speak and or dive with us, and is anyone in contact with Charles Delbeek from the aquarium? I was e-mailing him back and forth when I first found out I was coming to Hawaii, he filled me in on most of what this thread has posted.
Ed
I agree with what "nodea717" (I'm up for BB'Q) and "RGBMatt" said about seeding your beach rock. I found a McDonald’s toy while diving two weeks ago, it was totally covered in coralline. I thought.... I could take that scrape it off put it in a tank with "dead" rock throw on some actinic VHOs on it, keep the ALK high and the coralline will grow like a weed.
I love the club idea, I spoke with Bob Fenner at IMAC this year and I am sure he would come speak and or dive with us, and is anyone in contact with Charles Delbeek from the aquarium? I was e-mailing him back and forth when I first found out I was coming to Hawaii, he filled me in on most of what this thread has posted.
Ed
