REEF SMAC
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:lmao: Hopefully you weren't out in public at the time.
Thank you guys!:beer:
(HD720p)S.MAC 600g SPS System/Full MH + Solaris/Surge/Prop/Fuge/Pond Chiller
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:lmao: Hopefully you weren't out in public at the time.
Thank you guys!:beer:
Santoki
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awesome setup and reef Steve.
Question on your surge system:
Do you lose velocity after the water drains into the air separator from the CSD on the top floor? I'm asking because it looks like the air separator is essentially a secondary surge device and the velocity is really created by the speed in which the air separator gets filled and empties, completely unrelated to the actual velocity created by having the CSD on the top floor.
-Robert
Question on your surge system:
Do you lose velocity after the water drains into the air separator from the CSD on the top floor? I'm asking because it looks like the air separator is essentially a secondary surge device and the velocity is really created by the speed in which the air separator gets filled and empties, completely unrelated to the actual velocity created by having the CSD on the top floor.
-Robert
REEF SMAC
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Stick with it, before you know it you will.
Thank you very much teo reef.:thumbsup:
REEF SMAC
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First off, thank you for the compliment.
I actually had my surge hooked up without the air separator when I first set this tank up and there really was no noticeable difference in velocity after I added the separator. Just a lot less bubbles.
At most there is probably some friction loss, but it's negligible.
To explain it another way. The separator is always full of water to the level of the DT.(water seeks it's own level) If you calculate the volume of the remaining 4" pipe, the portion of the separator that's above the DT water level, it would hold less than 3 gallons of water. With 25 gallons falling from my upstairs surge tank, draining in less than 30 seconds, into this separator, all that water enters my DT tank without ever spilling over into the air vent hose. In other words, the water enters my DT so fast, that it never over fills that 3 gallon space of the separator, that is above the DT water level.
When you are standing there watching the surge water enter the DT, you can easily see where it pushes tiny micro bubbles all the way to the opposite end of the DT.(6') It's by far, waaaaay more velocity than I get out of my MP60s or 6305. (probably triple)
I've hooked up other CSDs on several other tanks in the past, placed a very short distance above the DT water level. Athough they also work extremely well, having it up higher works even better.
Having the CSD higher up causes it to be siphoned empty faster.
Place a 15' siphon hose in a trash can full of water sitting on the ground and see how fast the water comes out the end of the hose. Take that trash can up to the second story place the siphon hose in it, extend that 15' hose down to the ground level and see how fast the water comes out.
The velocity of the water entering the DT is directly related to how fast this large volume of water is entering the DT.
Hopefully all my ramblings made some sense..?
launchnukes
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Beautiful! And that square spot is a beast!
Santoki
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Hopefully all my ramblings made some sense..?
totally makes sense. So the speed at which the water empties into the display is still dictated somewhat by how high up the CSD is located.
Thanks for taking the time to explain. I will have to try this in my next system...
Santoki
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REEF SMAC
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Thanks launchnukes, that square spot actually seems to know it's a beast too.
Yes, it just passes right on through that separator, and taking out most of the bubbles on the way.
Thank you Acronic!
REEF SMAC
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Thanks Andy! :beer:
REEF SMAC
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Thanks klepto,
You are correct, top down with the cell phone.
Thanks DML08.
