Help all fish dead!!!!!

Also for next time you stock. One fish at a time with a couple of week break in between. The bacteria in the rock that runs the nitrogen cycle will have to catch up every time you add a fish. I would stay away from damsels too. They get too territorial and aggressive in a small tank. In a 20 gallon if they would have survived this they would have killed each other soon enough and also made it impossible to add any other fish. Go with what you want in the tank (that is able to live in a 20 gallon) and not what someone tells you is tough and will survive.
 
Gotta research your critters too. an anemone is not a great thing to throw into a brand new tank. Do you have proper lighting? Did you research into the choc chip star and see that it is not reef safe and could potentially kill/eat that anemone?

I wish you all the best. I am new to the hobby as well and believe my success so far has been from lots of research and going slow and of course the good folks at RC :)
 
Going forward, don't go buy what your LFS tells you unless you absolutely know they're reputable. No decent store would have sold you all that stuff right when you were setting up the tank. Before you buy anything else, research it online for feeding requirements, aggression, size when full grown, compatibility, etc. The store should absolutely not have sold you a bunch of that stuff. But now you know. :)
 
I got lucky and found reef central BEFORE I purchased my tank. Now that you have found us, you should read read and read some more. This post will help others. You got this.
 
sorry you had such a bad experience with your first venture into saltwater. lots of good advice given and once you get all of your ducks in a row, you will really enjoy this hobby!

as far as power heads, my only suggestion is to try to get one that has a magnetic feature rather than suction cups. damn suction cups don't hold well and you are likely to wake up one morning to it laying on the sand bed with sand blowing everywhere. don't ask me how i know this. :o

best of luck and do ask lots of questions! and don't think a question is stupid...there are no stupid questions in this hobby!
 
sorry for your loss....

sorry for your loss....

Now you need to educate yourself.... I've been keeping fish for over 50 years. I had always limited myself to Fresh water tanks and gold fish and koi ponds... just last march I started my first salt water reef tank... I researched it for over a year.. and still made mistakes... I had a few growing pains but never had anything that reading ( and some hard work) couldn't fix...I'm in total agreement with what most of the others have said... take a deep breath.. read the good info here and start over...it's a fun and relaxing hobby.. you just need to "re-boot" and start from scratch...enjoy the journey..
 
I'd look into an Aquaclear50 or 70 if your going to run a HOB filter, much easier to run different media in then the cartridge type filters. As said Koralia nano powerhead would be a good choice, you can also get a WP10 pretty cheap I just snagged one off ebay for like $40 shipped.

Always do your research before going to the LFS or google once your there on your phone, just cause they sell fish doesnt mean they know squat about fish.

I'd try to return or temporarily rehome the anenome or it likely wont last, generally you should get one until the tanks been up and running a good 6 months with steady parameters.
 
P.S. I was told of all the fish I could buy that the damsels were hardy and would have a high chance (90%) of surviving the cycling phase.

Cycling a tank with live animals benefits only the LFS; you do not need live animals to cycle a tank. I would not trust their recommendations going forward.
 
YOur lfs has steered you very wrong. I'm so sorry. But you need a total restart. See if they'll take the survivors back, and use them for very basic supplies, but ask here before you buy anything but salt from them. There are online resources (our sponsors, among others) that can serve as supply.
Tell us what size and brand tank you have, what gallons per hour your pump handles, whether you have a sump, what lighting you have, and whether you have a ro/di filter to prepare your fresh water for salt. Don't be embarrassed if you don't know some answers: if you'd been told right in the first place, you wouldn't have had this unhappy experience.

We'll be happy to help. Many of us have been at this for decades, and we can help you design a system that will work for you.
 
Sorry bout the die off, that sucks.
I'm a noob myself. I did a few months of research before starting my reef and here's a few things I learned and managed to avoid over the past month...

- Water turnover should be at least 10x of tank size per hour, so a 20 gallon tank should have a filter and powerheads moving at least 200 gallons per hour.

- You should have at least 1/2 pound of live rock for each gallon of tank space, so in a 20 gallon tank you need a minimum of 10 pounds of live rock

- Avoid using tap water. Use reverse osmosis de-ioinized (RODI) for initial set up. Any water from the tap contains chlorine, arsenic, phosphates, copper, etc - all damaging to the reef. Using treated tap with a chemical additive that claims to 'make tap water safe' is not really safe for a reef tank, perhaps a freshwater, but not reef. I initially used treated tap and, under advice from folks in these forums, I emptied the entire tank and restarted from scratch with RODI.

- Your salinity is high. Remember when doing top-ups you do not use salt water, you use regular (RODI) water - though water evaporates, salt does not. Only use salt water during water changes. I was topping up with salt water and couldn't understand why my salinity/specific gravity was climbing. Then my wife looked at me as if I were an idiot (which is often the case) and refreshed me on the fact that salt doesn't magically disappear.

- CYCLE CYCLE CYCLE - this is probably the most important thing for the new tank. No livestock in tank at all, just salt (RODI) water and live rock. Filters and lights off during the cycle. This whole process can take weeks to complete - during which time you can learn about top-ups, maintaining pH, maintaining temp, etc. I've been referring to the past few weeks as 'Learning how to keep water alive'
When I initially set up my 40 gallon I was confused, as all my reading looked great. A few days later, still no ammonia, everything looked good - it was almost as if the tank had cycled. A guy at the local fish store (LFS) told me that with my live rock and live sand, my tank was probably ready for fish. The good folks in these forums told me otherwise and I listened.
What was happening was that bacteria from the live rock were beginning to die and their decaying bodies were slowly building up, which takes a while. After a full week and a half my ammonia began slowly creeping up. Now, over two weeks in my ammonia level is high enough that anything I had in the tank would be dead right now. It should start decreasing soon as new bacteria eat the dead bacteria and stabilize the tank. I'm hoping the cycle will be complete within the next 2 weeks.
So, if your going to restart, cycle cycle cycle. The entire future of your tank is based on how well you go through the cycling process when its first set up.

- Use these forums extensively. The folks here are fantastic and are happy to lend a hand.

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious. I don't mean to sound demeaning or insulting, I'm just trying to share my noob experiences with you.

Good luck,
Mark
 
Anenome

Anenome

I have upgraded the filter from a Whisper 20i to a 45 gal Aqueon that hangs on the back instead of submerged in the tank. My anenome looks a whole lot happier, as all his tentacles are out and waving all over the place. Now I know this has a lot to do with the placement of the filter, but I heard anenomes will usually choose a spot beneath the filter for oxygen and water flow.

I do have a question though. When I removed the in tank filter and replaced with a hanging one the water level dropped. Of course this is due to the displacement of the missing item. Therefore, I had to add a half gallon of fresh water to the tank. When I measured the salinity it was still hanging at 1.028 as before. Is that normal?

Thanks in advance for the awesome information! :)
 

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a half gallon probably wasn't enough to dilute the tank water enough to lower your salinity. however, it's a bit high. you should strive for 1.025-1.026. this should be done gradually. while fish can go from high to low easier than going from low to higher salinity, it's still a good idea not to do high to low all at once especially in a small tank where parameters can swing wildly. hope that makes sense!

as for your nem, it may do well for a while but nems need a very mature tank (at the very least, 6 months) to thrive. don't know if it's been said yet but be sure you have some sort of cover on any power heads in your tank. nems are notorious for moving around and can end up getting stuck/shredded in a power head.
 
So sorry for your fish loss and lousy introduction to a great hobby. Please pay attention to the forum comments on your LFS, they really messed up. Try and find an LFS that specializes in fish and preferably one that specializes in marine reef fish. This hobby is fascinating and requires much patience and lots of reading and asking questions, speed and salt water tanks do not mix. Hope you stick with it and have a better experience.
 
Poor you! You repeated the mistake myself and hundreds of others have made. I also believed my LFS. And my fish also died. Thus was back in 2000.
Good for you for coming here and getting good solid advice. I wish you as much success as this place has brought me. You seem to have a good attitude and a willingness to learn, which is the recipe for a truly excellent tank.
 
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