Help Designing Plumbing for 220g

Yes, you will have them filling then draining then filling again if you have a wavebox going in there. I helped set one up on a 210g and it had dual overflows but they were not corner overflows. You could hear the sloshing and slurping sounds alternating between overflows until we did his with the "Herbie" method or siphon/emergency drain method.

Do you plan on using BeanAnimal's design for your drains? I would think that you would want to keep the overflow as small as possible to make more room for rock/corals and keep it inconspicuous.

FYI, I have run 1,500 gph through a single 1" PVC drain when using the siphon method so if you have 2 drains plus 2 emergency drains you should be able to keep up with roughly 3,000 gph without upsizing your drains to 1.5" The connectors and pipe gets a lot more expensive and harder to fit in places as you get over 1" so that's something to consider.

If you are sure you like closed loops that's fine but consider the 300watt pump that CleveYank mentioned for 1700gph of flow can be achieved with one powerhead at 20 watts. They may be a bit uglier but you can move powerheads up and down in the water column and aim them almost any direction. If you have a closed loop you will still see the ends of the tubes unless you are planning on drilling the bottom and doing the whole "inside the live rock" plumbing system.

In my opinion a few small powerheads properly pointed and partially hidden flowing 6,000 gph at 60 watts is more advantageous than a single 1700gph pump running at 300 watts and there is no place that a powerhead can have a leak like the plumbing you would have to do on a closed loop.

Are you planning to have the sump in the stand or are you going to the basement?

-- Kevin
 
When you have big wave the center is going to be the most level.If there on the ends only one is going work at a time.sorry its hard for me to explain.
no Im trying to do an internal wavebox.either going with 2 tunze waveboxes or 2 vortechs
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13297151#post13297151 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by itZme
Yes, you will have them filling then draining then filling again if you have a wavebox going in there. I helped set one up on a 210g and it had dual overflows but they were not corner overflows. You could hear the sloshing and slurping sounds alternating between overflows until we did his with the "Herbie" method or siphon/emergency drain method.

Do you plan on using BeanAnimal's design for your drains? I would think that you would want to keep the overflow as small as possible to make more room for rock/corals and keep it inconspicuous.

FYI, I have run 1,500 gph through a single 1" PVC drain when using the siphon method so if you have 2 drains plus 2 emergency drains you should be able to keep up with roughly 3,000 gph without upsizing your drains to 1.5" The connectors and pipe gets a lot more expensive and harder to fit in places as you get over 1" so that's something to consider.

If you are sure you like closed loops that's fine but consider the 300watt pump that CleveYank mentioned for 1700gph of flow can be achieved with one powerhead at 20 watts. They may be a bit uglier but you can move powerheads up and down in the water column and aim them almost any direction. If you have a closed loop you will still see the ends of the tubes unless you are planning on drilling the bottom and doing the whole "inside the live rock" plumbing system.

In my opinion a few small powerheads properly pointed and partially hidden flowing 6,000 gph at 60 watts is more advantageous than a single 1700gph pump running at 300 watts and there is no place that a powerhead can have a leak like the plumbing you would have to do on a closed loop.

Are you planning to have the sump in the stand or are you going to the basement?

-- Kevin
Thanks Kevin. Yeah when I posted the sketches, I forgot that Bean said he tested the system up to around 3,000 GPH. So I will probably go with a similiar design.

I don't want to do the "coast to coast" calfo though, and would like to make the box as small as I can while still effectively skimming the surface.

I really like the CL layout in that TOTM article, but a big concern would be leaking, and also space for the extra pump/OM 4 Way. The townhouse doesn't have a basement, so everything would need to be housed under the stand. I could potentially run some lines through the wall into the garage, but heat/cold is a major issue in there. I don't know how I would protect against all the fluctuations.
 
Jeff, I set up a Tunze wavebox on a 210g and it created a wave that was enough to splash over the sides when maxed out. I couldn't see a reason to use 2 waveboxes on anything less than an 8ft tank. unless it was a 48"x48" or similar sized tank.

We got the wave going as high as possible and then turned downt he intensity to keep the water inside the tank and off the carpet :)

HTH
-- Kevin
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13297179#post13297179 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jeff Trout
When you have big wave the center is going to be the most level.If there on the ends only one is going work at a time.sorry its hard for me to explain.
no Im trying to do an internal wavebox.either going with 2 tunze waveboxes or 2 vortechs
That's what I was figuring... so I gotcha.

Ok... For some reason I thought you were going to try the external one.

Have you ever seen this video of a guy that made one... grab your surfboard... it's ridiculous :eek2:

 
itZme,see I was looking for a wavebox for that reason,but I dont know anyone with one and dan at salty said he never tried one in a 6ft tank.Ive got a vortech but it dont do a great wave with 1.
tj,THATS a wave.
 
Tanks here!

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I just couldn't resist :lol:

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The panel facing the camera is going to be the back. It still has some coraline residue on it, but the other panel basically clear, and I only noticed one scratch.
 
Thanks.

We'll see... As funds come available, but I'm pretty excited about getting this thing going.

The longest part is going to be building the stand and canopy, as I'm not the greatest at that. I can make the frame no problem... but fancying it up is another story. :lol:

I have the location picked out, and am going to go through a wall into the garage with the plumbing, so now noise shouldn't be an issue.
 
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