help! I'm new and now have "ich"
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ericarenee
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I agree with the above post on how to cure ich... I also think you can do hypo in your DT. But really watch ammonia and water changes every 3 days or so.. Or at least have water ready..
I am going to add this..... With your Lack of Experience with a Marine tank... You should Take those tangs back to the Pet store and trade them in (once cured) For fish that can survive well in a newly non established tank Cared for by a New Tank owner...
You or your tank is not ready for such species ... I still partially blame the LFS That sold them to you....But most of the blame goes on your...Hippo tangs need a super stable and Established tank.. There is NO other way to say it but.. That fish likely hood of surviving is Close to 0...
With that wish you the BEST OF LUCK... And i do HOPE YOU BEAT THE ODDS.
Erica Renee
I am going to add this..... With your Lack of Experience with a Marine tank... You should Take those tangs back to the Pet store and trade them in (once cured) For fish that can survive well in a newly non established tank Cared for by a New Tank owner...
You or your tank is not ready for such species ... I still partially blame the LFS That sold them to you....But most of the blame goes on your...Hippo tangs need a super stable and Established tank.. There is NO other way to say it but.. That fish likely hood of surviving is Close to 0...
With that wish you the BEST OF LUCK... And i do HOPE YOU BEAT THE ODDS.
Erica Renee
Tell me about it! Lol. That was the plan but made a bad decision.
Thanks
Clearly this is my fault...I knew better. I Did a lot of research before starting this and wasn't planing on having any tangs for at least a year, but I used my daughter as an excuse to be ignorant!
Lot of lessons in a short amount of time. But I cured the tang for now and have yet to lose a fish and don't plan on it. I've stocked up with 600G of salt in case I lose my bio equalibrium during hypo.
Didn't mean to stack the odds against me, as I only have one type of luck and it ain't good! Lol
Fish look awesome right now and all getting along, I'll start hypo tomorrow morning.
ericarenee
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[emoji3] did not mean to sound so mean . just no more impulse buying please.we have all been there
Didn't sound mean at all...I just feel somewhat guilty as charged.lol
Bent
I got nothin'
Don't sweat it killer, we've all been there at one point.
I lost an entire tank once, so I'm def not above it.
gone fishin
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I'm not at work now so a little follow up.
It is crucial to maintain the salinity at the 1.009 any higher and the possibility of it working goes down. You should maintain the salinity until the last spot has been seen plus 4 weeks for best results. Keep an eye on your chemistry at the lower salinity pH can become an issue.
An auto top off IMO is vital for success at maintaining the salinity. Also be aware that there is evidence that some strains of ich are resistant to hypo. There is a sticky that discusses hypo in the fish disease forum. Good luck
It is crucial to maintain the salinity at the 1.009 any higher and the possibility of it working goes down. You should maintain the salinity until the last spot has been seen plus 4 weeks for best results. Keep an eye on your chemistry at the lower salinity pH can become an issue.
An auto top off IMO is vital for success at maintaining the salinity. Also be aware that there is evidence that some strains of ich are resistant to hypo. There is a sticky that discusses hypo in the fish disease forum. Good luck
Thanks
I'm down to 1.019 now...did want to hear that some stains are resistant to hypo! Do you think this is a bad idea and should go fallow? To bad copper lingers!
gone fishin
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Given your previous descriptions you could try the hypo treatment. I just wanted you to be as well informed as possible, since these treatments take a significant amount of time. IMO hypo is usually the least successful of the options. I would surmise the reason is not being able to maintain the salinity at the proper level for effective treatment. I believe this is due to inadequate top off or faulty salinity readings. Good luck
No, don't buy any more fish until you have sorted out your current situation. Only after your hyposalinity treatment and all fish cured in the DT should you think about more fish.
Then when you do buy new fish down the road, do a proper QT (TTM and 4 weeks of observation after that). If you did everything properly, when you add them to the DT, there will not be an ich mishap.
Sapelo
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+1 "don't buy more fish" or anything else (coral included) until you have things under control.
The lesson here is: SLOW DOWN.
Only bad things happen quickly in reefing.
You've got a lot to learn and you're here asking for advice which is a very good thing, but learn first, add more second.
The lesson here is: SLOW DOWN.
Only bad things happen quickly in reefing.
You've got a lot to learn and you're here asking for advice which is a very good thing, but learn first, add more second.
gone fishin
New member
Hypo
Thanks everyone
Going hypo in my display, going to bring it down to 1.008. Didn't realize how much rodi water that takes. So far I've removed about 90G of saltwater and replaced with straight up rodi and I'm 1.015 in 3 water changes. Water changes are done in my 90G refug. Then trickled into the DT. Waiting on more rodi , lol 90G per day, so much for reaching 1.008 in 48 hrs.
I'm taking everyone's advice and probably won't be adding anything to my tank till this evolution in complete. 3 months or so
Going to be a tough go! Lol
Going hypo in my display, going to bring it down to 1.008. Didn't realize how much rodi water that takes. So far I've removed about 90G of saltwater and replaced with straight up rodi and I'm 1.015 in 3 water changes. Water changes are done in my 90G refug. Then trickled into the DT. Waiting on more rodi , lol 90G per day, so much for reaching 1.008 in 48 hrs.
I'm taking everyone's advice and probably won't be adding anything to my tank till this evolution in complete. 3 months or so
Going to be a tough go! Lol
Here is a disappointing update!
Should have went fallow! Returned tangs to store, and went hypo for 4 months, fish all still alive except for a cleaner wrasse and Midas Benny. Started to raise salinity Dec 28th and currently at 1.015 by topping off with hyper salinity ATO. Cashed in on gift certificates and bought six fish about 2 weeks ago( getting ready to start this cool hobby again) and placed in 3 cycled qt's (lesson learned). Feed the fish tonight and noticed ich on my clowns in my DT!!
Last week of September I read that I needed to cal. My refractometer with rodi and noticed my display was around 1.012. I adjusted down to 1.008 and stayed like that till Dec 28th (couldn't even tast any salt in the water).
I guess I'll have to take all my fish in qt back to LFS put my shrimp and anemones back in the display and go fallow. I separated my refugium and kept it at normal salinity so I could keep live rock, shrimp, anemones, snails; it's a 90g tank. Thinking I should just sell them as well.
But if I was going to keep my inverts and put them in my display (maintaining a seperate 90g is now a bit of a pain)
Here is my question...Do I just feed anemones and shrimp table shrimp while fallow or can ich survive on that as well? Do I also have to find the wrasse and Benny corpses? Would tearing down my tank/ put rock and sand outside to freeze be my best option(live in Canada)?
This is not an easy hobby to say the lest and today I've lost all enjoyment. I didnt get where I am today in life by quitting, I've invest about $4000 already in this freaking thing, none of which has gone to coral. I have yet to buy any coral, other then 1 poly which I gave back when I went hypo. I see all these beautiful tanks that people put together in a matter of months and I can't even get a dozen fish in the box without tragedy (8 months in, half of which has been at hypo)
Should have went fallow! Returned tangs to store, and went hypo for 4 months, fish all still alive except for a cleaner wrasse and Midas Benny. Started to raise salinity Dec 28th and currently at 1.015 by topping off with hyper salinity ATO. Cashed in on gift certificates and bought six fish about 2 weeks ago( getting ready to start this cool hobby again) and placed in 3 cycled qt's (lesson learned). Feed the fish tonight and noticed ich on my clowns in my DT!!
Last week of September I read that I needed to cal. My refractometer with rodi and noticed my display was around 1.012. I adjusted down to 1.008 and stayed like that till Dec 28th (couldn't even tast any salt in the water).
I guess I'll have to take all my fish in qt back to LFS put my shrimp and anemones back in the display and go fallow. I separated my refugium and kept it at normal salinity so I could keep live rock, shrimp, anemones, snails; it's a 90g tank. Thinking I should just sell them as well.
But if I was going to keep my inverts and put them in my display (maintaining a seperate 90g is now a bit of a pain)
Here is my question...Do I just feed anemones and shrimp table shrimp while fallow or can ich survive on that as well? Do I also have to find the wrasse and Benny corpses? Would tearing down my tank/ put rock and sand outside to freeze be my best option(live in Canada)?
This is not an easy hobby to say the lest and today I've lost all enjoyment. I didnt get where I am today in life by quitting, I've invest about $4000 already in this freaking thing, none of which has gone to coral. I have yet to buy any coral, other then 1 poly which I gave back when I went hypo. I see all these beautiful tanks that people put together in a matter of months and I can't even get a dozen fish in the box without tragedy (8 months in, half of which has been at hypo)
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kmbyrnes
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I am truly sorry for your pain. There is no substitute for going fallow, other than restarting your tank. That is more work than letting an established, cycled tank go fallow.
What you need to do now is get all the fish out of your DT and into a TTM protocol then QT. The rest of your tank's inhabitants can stay in the DT while you ghost feed the tank for a minimum of 72 days. Feed them a small amount of flakes every other day or so.
After that, you need to be sure you QT every new arrival.
Ich requires the presence of fish to complete its life cycle, there is more info in the sticky at the top of this forum.
What you need to do now is get all the fish out of your DT and into a TTM protocol then QT. The rest of your tank's inhabitants can stay in the DT while you ghost feed the tank for a minimum of 72 days. Feed them a small amount of flakes every other day or so.
After that, you need to be sure you QT every new arrival.
Ich requires the presence of fish to complete its life cycle, there is more info in the sticky at the top of this forum.
If i reset the tank, can I put the rock and sand out side to freeze...that will kill ich?
Thanks
