Help Me Color My SPS. Timeline

[Led reef]

Temp 81 lol. U are coocking corals lol

 

[milsaltnewbie07]

There have been some good suggestions as to ways to fix your issue, which is a combination of too much harsh light and not enough nutrients. For a big improvement I would bring your nitrates up from undetectable to between 2 and 10. You can do this with sodium, calcium, or potassium nitrate, which are readily available online. These fertilizers are typically used for freshwater planted tanks.

Raising nitrates through increased feelings or aminos is more difficult to achieve and control. Adding more fish is better than just feeding more to the fish you have if you don't want to directly dose nitrate.

Might go the fish route, since more dosing just mean more of a pain in the butt lol. Figure i can get 2 more fish, so they can poop their butts of .

Led Reef
As far as the temp, lowering is just almost impossible. I have no room to put a chiller, due to the location of thr tank. However, i have kept my temp arrou d 80 to 81 on all previous tanks with great results. Not to knock you comment, specially since you obviously know what your doing looking at that amazing reef you got. Ill bring it down to 80, but thats as low as i can bring it without a chiller.

 

[milsaltnewbie07]

So i got my hands on some KNO3(spectrazide tree stump) , and i want to dose it to raise no3. I tested again today and im at 0 salifert. Can someone please tell me the mixing*instructions, and the amount to dose. Also*a safeamount of ppm i can raise it to

 

[mhucasey]

So i got my hands on some KNO3(spectrazide tree stump) , and i want to dose it to raise no3. I tested again today and im at 0 salifert. Can someone please tell me the mixing*instructions, and the amount to dose. Also*a safeamount of ppm i can raise it to

Here is a calculator you can use to determine dosing: http://www.theplantedtank.co.uk/calculator.htm

You can pre-mix with water or add the dry granules to an overflow box to slowly dissolve. Try to raise it about 2ppm at a time. I target 5ppm nitrate in my tank.

 

[milsaltnewbie07]

Here is a calculator you can use to determine dosing: http://www.theplantedtank.co.uk/calculator.htm

You can pre-mix with water or add the dry granules to an overflow box to slowly dissolve. Try to raise it about 2ppm at a time. I target 5ppm nitrate in my tank.

Thanks matt, I ended up doing 10 ml and mixed 2 tblsp in about 8 oz of RODI. This raised it to about 2ppm. But frankly I hate Salifert no3 kit because all the low number look the same lol

 

[lionfish300]

Try Hanna it is digital much easier

 

[mhucasey]

Thanks matt, I ended up doing 10 ml and mixed 2 tblsp in about 8 oz of RODI. This raised it to about 2ppm. But frankly I hate Salifert no3 kit because all the low number look the same lol

Yes sometimes those shades are hard to tell apart. Just shoot for having some pink hue when looking through the side of the vial. I'm interested stop see what results you have:thumbsup:

 

[markalot]

Thanks matt, I ended up doing 10 ml and mixed 2 tblsp in about 8 oz of RODI. This raised it to about 2ppm. But frankly I hate Salifert no3 kit because all the low number look the same lol

Have you tried looking through the side?

I did notice, comparing 3 kits, that some of the cards were crap. I kept the best card with the most color difference. One of the cards had 3 squares of the same color, or at least my eyes couldn't tell the difference.

 

[milsaltnewbie07]

Yes sometimes those shades are hard to tell apart. Just shoot for having some pink hue when looking through the side of the vial. I'm interested stop see what results you have:thumbsup:

Will do. Just fiy I checked no3 this morning before dosing and went down just a bit. So I toned down my dosage from 10ml to 5ml, which put me at 5ppm, im guessing this seem to be the sweet spot for most people so I will leave it there

Have you tried looking through the side?

I did notice, comparing 3 kits, that some of the cards were crap. I kept the best card with the most color difference. One of the cards had 3 squares of the same color, or at least my eyes couldn't tell the difference.

Yea your not kidding. Im finding my self having to ask the wife to double check test. But like matt says, as long as its light pink its good to go.

 

[milsaltnewbie07]

OK from good to bad. Seems im getting stn/rtn on some of my acros. I been keeping params stable at 8dkh, 420 cal, 1400 mag, No3 at 10ppm, Phos is unknow at this time since I ran out of hanna test kits but shoud have them by tomorrow. I even lowered my temp to 78F, by placing a fan in the canopy and using it at a exhaust fan. Im kicking my self because I have no clue why this is happening. I removed gfo today, just in case, was thinking of adding gac just in case I got any chemicals or anything that may harm tank by mistake, while I cas cutting the wholes for the fan. However I don't know if this is a good idea since the whole stn/rtn might get worst. Keep in mind when I ran gac/gfo I do it passively in a mesh bag but it does the job for me. Any ideas or suggestions??

 

[markalot]

I would keep the GFO out of the tank and let it ride for a while, see if things settle down. I've been through this before and unfortunately don't have any really good ideas. My big acros, the slimer and blue stags, would live through the ups and downs but a lot of other acros would go full zombie and slowly die off no matter what I did. Hopefully things will turn around soon.

 

[milsaltnewbie07]

The tank is still rtn. This is getting to me. Params have been spot on stable. Im hoping i recover soon, im tire of loosing frags

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[markalot]

Too clean, look at your rocks, spotless and I can see into the next room. Make sure to feed some coral food on a regular basis, get some food in the water. Also make sure not to move PO4 too fast. .09 to .1 PO4 sounds about right for now. Maybe lower the light level, it may be too bright for how clean the water is.

If the corals had already been damaged some might be zombies and still showing symptoms from the original issue. Superglue the edges if you can and hope for the best.

 

[milsaltnewbie07]

Too clean, look at your rocks, spotless and I can see into the next room. Make sure to feed some coral food on a regular basis, get some food in the water. Also make sure not to move PO4 too fast. .09 to .1 PO4 sounds about right for now. Maybe lower the light level, it may be too bright for how clean the water is.

If the corals had already been damaged some might be zombies and still showing symptoms from the original issue. Superglue the edges if you can and hope for the best.

Thanks Mark, i guess ill start nightly coral feeding with coral frenzy that i have. Hoping that helps. Im so depressed lol i lost my scc and my new CC raspberry shortcake yesterday. So we are at 10 or 11 so far. Sucks because i was about to put in an order soon with all the live sales going on. No way i can do it now untill i can get tank back to normal. Learned my leason. No more trying to go ULNS. From now on , im sticking with my dirty tank. Btw yours is starting to look better.

 

[Denadai]

Temp 81 lol. U are coocking corals lol

I never had a problem even keeping 83,5. Just be sure to have good flow around the tank

Best Regards

 

[milsaltnewbie07]

I never had a problem even keeping 83,5. Just be sure to have good flow around the tank

Best Regards

Neither have i Denadai, but i lowered it just to give it a try just in case. As far as flow i ran a gyre 130 at 60% pulse and mp10 at 40% reefcrest.

 

[ReefWreak]

Neither have i Denadai, but i lowered it just to give it a try just in case. As far as flow i ran a gyre 130 at 60% pulse and mp10 at 40% reefcrest.

40% in a 62 cube?! I run at 85% in my 29g biocube, and it isn't that much flow!

I take it that the gyre puts out a lot of flow?

I ask out of surprise, and also because when my old MP10 died, I ran a korallia nano for flow for a week, and it was kinda meh flow, and my corals all browned out. About a month later with a new vortech, I was back to business and everything had colored back up again.

 

[milsaltnewbie07]

40% in a 62 cube?! I run at 85% in my 29g biocube, and it isn't that much flow!

I take it that the gyre puts out a lot of flow?

I ask out of surprise, and also because when my old MP10 died, I ran a korallia nano for flow for a week, and it was kinda meh flow, and my corals all browned out. About a month later with a new vortech, I was back to business and everything had colored back up again.

Yea the gyre is insane, i have to run it at pulse and cant go above 60 % without almost knocking corals of their base lol. I just run the mp to get the backsides of the tank more, but in reality i can go without it. I used to run the mp10 at 100% RC before the gyre, but for the money the gyre is amazing

 

[milsaltnewbie07]

Well i water tested today and i got the following.
8dkh as always on salifert
5ppm no3 salifert
0 po4 on hanna....
So i was like wth i have been getting .09 lately. Well apparently i had been doing it wrong. I was pressing the black button and not holding it. Therefore i would never get a timer countdown. I would add solutiong once c2 came out , swirled it untill diluted, put the tube in and pressed the black button. It would blink a few times with a --- on the screen, and i would get a number. Apparently this was wrong, since like i said you must hold untill countdown appears to get the correct reading.

Anyways, after seeing 0's today and last night i wondered ..whats eating up all the phosphate? ?. I have gfo offline as well as gac. Im still running matrix and macro (cheato). So i decided to feed the tank and test an hour later. No way i could have 0 po4. Well an hour later i got a .04 a bit better. Guess i will have to keep an eye out on this, since i dont want to starve out the tank again.