Help!!! My tangs got white dots all over.

In your original post you had a 60 gallon tank with 3 tangs. Now you have 2 tangs and a sweetlips. And I have no clue what firetail fishes are. If this is a serious thread, you have much reading to do before you're going to be successful. And as I said before, NO MATTER WHAT, you should get these fish out of your tank and qt them/give them away/trade them for future credit for when you're ready for fish.
 
and don't just start throwing additives in the tank... Calcium right now, unless you have a lot of hard corals, isn't going to be an issue... Phosphates would be an issue if you had a lot of algae growth...
the problem is the tank did not cycle... you need to get some bacteria into the tank to help it cycle, or get the fish out of there into an already cycled tank, either at the LFS, or with a friend...
and 5 fish this soon, as everyone has said so far, is TOO MUCH. saltwater fish/reef keeping is NOTHING like freshwater... Saltwater creatures are not forgiving like freshwater... a small oops will kill your whole tank!
 
Thanks 5ft24. Your advice is very constructive.
I just added more seachem stabilizer to add more bacteria.
Is there a medicine to add to tank that won't harm corals?
 
what I was going to get when I first thought mine had Ich was Kent Marine Rx P Marine Parasite... good reviews etc.
 
5ft24, Thanks for the suggestion. Have you used this stuff in your main tank with corals and everything? Have you fishes ever gotten iches?

Thanks
 
ALL the fish need to be removed and QT'd. Not just the "sick" ones. Ich is a free swimming parasite that will remain in your system as long as fish are present. Take ALL fish out and into QT and allow 35-60 days for the Ich to die off in your display tank. QT the fish in a separate tank with copper and keep up on the water changes on it.

TRUST ME, I feel your frustration. I recently got Ich on a tang I had, and it started to infect all of my other fish. I ended up tearing down my tank to catch all 14 fish I have and placed them into QT. A Goldrim Tang started it and it spread to my Saddleback clowns, Lavender tang, Yellow tang, "mystery tang", 4 chromis, and 3 Anthia's, six line wrasse, and Horseface blenny. The Goldrim had it so bad that it died very quickly in QT.

You can try to medicate the display with whatever, but it usually doesn't work.

Leave the display fish-less and allow the ich to die off, then go ahead and add em again.

Good luck!!
 
Dude, STOP adding stuff to your tank!!!!! Remove ALL of the fish, do a 50% water change and then leave your tank alone - meaning DON'T touch it for 4-6 weeks. Then you might be able to add one or two SMALL fish to get started. If you don't do this today, you will kill your tank and likely have it up on Craigslist within a month. Seriously, I don't mean to be harsh, but we are seeing you make one mistake after another. You need to do a lot of reading before attempting to continue in this hobby.
 
Listen man, you're not listening. You CANNOT treat ich in a tank with corals. You cannot just add a bottle of 'bacteria' to the tank. You are either going to a) kill all of the fish in that tank - the tank is too small anyway, or b) kill all of the fish AND all of the corals.
 
I am going to the store today to get some medicine for them. I have setup a Qt tank for them last night. Looks like this thanks giving i will be the fish doctor. Hopefully they will all make it. The corals are doing well today. Catching the fish will be such a task. I might have to remove all the rocks.
 
1) You cannot have a sweet lips in a 60 gallon tank. They need 200+ gallons.
2) You cannot have a tang, any tang in a 60 gallon tank. They need 100+ gallons.
3) Powder Browns, Blues etc. need 125 gallons minimum
4) Sailfin Tangs need 125 gallons minimum
5) Always QT your fish BEFORE putting them in the tank for 4-6 weeks, either with hyposalinity treatment or cupramaine. Prazi pro for 2 extra weeks isn't a bad idea either
6) You should wait at least 1-2 months before putting any fish into a new tank and add one fish a month after the 2 initial months
7) Corals should not be added until at least 3 months and 6 is much better
8) Quit listening to your wife on the fish tank part, if she isn't doing any research he advice is only going to kill your fish and corals, and waste 100's of dollars maybe even thousands.
9) Don't ever go back to the LFS you went to that sold you those fish and tangs for a 60 gallon tank that is only 2 weeks old on top of that. Only go back to get a refund for the fish after explaining what horrible advice they gave you. LFS are only out to make a dollar the easiest way. They do not care about your fish, if it dies good for them because if you bought 3 tangs for a 60g tank in the first place without knowing the tank was too small or mature, they know you will be right back the next wanting more. $$$ for them
10) Buy several books on this hobby and read read read before you do anything else to your tank.
11) Only do water changes right now, and do not add any supplements. Your tank is going to go through a lot of changes in the next 6-12 months. You need to get a feel for it's requirements before throwing stuff at it.
12) Please take every one's advice on this forum within common sense, but don't go out and do something that one person told you 5 minutes after they post their advice. Wait several days and see what the general consensus is among more elder knowledgeable reef keepers.
13) I wish you the best of luck, and please for this hobby's sake take it very slow and easy. There are a lot of people in the world right now attacking our hobby saying that our fish are destined to die by our hands because we do not know what we are doing. In most cases that is far from the truth, but sometimes it is the truth. Like I said before, read, read, read until your eyes are sore, and then read a lot more. While my tank cycled for 2 months I went to Barnes and Noble everyday for hours and read every saltwater aquarium, invert, fish and maintenance book I could find. They don't mind if you read their books in the store so take advantage of that.

I hope I didn't sound harsh, although I probably did, but people that know, in life sometimes you need to be jerked up by your belt loops and whacked up-side the head sometimes to wake up and listen, and take the best advice that is given to you and easily accessible.
 
^what he said. Read up on ichs life cycle, the "spots" that are falling off are going to come back in greater numbers. Understanding the parasite helps in defeating it.
 
I am going to the store today to get some medicine for them. I have setup a Qt tank for them last night. Looks like this thanks giving i will be the fish doctor. Hopefully they will all make it. The corals are doing well today. Catching the fish will be such a task. I might have to remove all the rocks.

Are you not listening? Please take ALL of the fish back to the store you purchased them from. Today! If they will not give you your money back...oh well. Putting your two tangs and a Sweetlips, plus others in an even smaller QT tank is NOT going to cure them. It will only stress them more and hasten their death. Seriously, you are going to kill these fish if you continue on the path you're on. Please listen to what others are telling you and heed the advice. You and your fish are in for a lot more misery if you don't.
 
Will update tomorrow. Lots of things happenned today for the better.
Thanks for all your advices. I truly appreciate it.
 
1) You cannot have a sweet lips in a 60 gallon tank. They need 200+ gallons.
2) You cannot have a tang, any tang in a 60 gallon tank. They need 100+ gallons.
3) Powder Browns, Blues etc. need 125 gallons minimum
4) Sailfin Tangs need 125 gallons minimum
5) Always QT your fish BEFORE putting them in the tank for 4-6 weeks, either with hyposalinity treatment or cupramaine. Prazi pro for 2 extra weeks isn't a bad idea either
6) You should wait at least 1-2 months before putting any fish into a new tank and add one fish a month after the 2 initial months
7) Corals should not be added until at least 3 months and 6 is much better
8) Quit listening to your wife on the fish tank part, if she isn't doing any research he advice is only going to kill your fish and corals, and waste 100's of dollars maybe even thousands.
9) Don't ever go back to the LFS you went to that sold you those fish and tangs for a 60 gallon tank that is only 2 weeks old on top of that. Only go back to get a refund for the fish after explaining what horrible advice they gave you. LFS are only out to make a dollar the easiest way. They do not care about your fish, if it dies good for them because if you bought 3 tangs for a 60g tank in the first place without knowing the tank was too small or mature, they know you will be right back the next wanting more. $$$ for them
10) Buy several books on this hobby and read read read before you do anything else to your tank.
11) Only do water changes right now, and do not add any supplements. Your tank is going to go through a lot of changes in the next 6-12 months. You need to get a feel for it's requirements before throwing stuff at it.
12) Please take every one's advice on this forum within common sense, but don't go out and do something that one person told you 5 minutes after they post their advice. Wait several days and see what the general consensus is among more elder knowledgeable reef keepers.
13) I wish you the best of luck, and please for this hobby's sake take it very slow and easy. There are a lot of people in the world right now attacking our hobby saying that our fish are destined to die by our hands because we do not know what we are doing. In most cases that is far from the truth, but sometimes it is the truth. Like I said before, read, read, read until your eyes are sore, and then read a lot more. While my tank cycled for 2 months I went to Barnes and Noble everyday for hours and read every saltwater aquarium, invert, fish and maintenance book I could find. They don't mind if you read their books in the store so take advantage of that.

I hope I didn't sound harsh, although I probably did, but people that know, in life sometimes you need to be jerked up by your belt loops and whacked up-side the head sometimes to wake up and listen, and take the best advice that is given to you and easily accessible.

I agree with you, the OP should have done way more research and taken it much slower, but I don't agree with your broad statements.

Everyone's tanks are very different from each other and what is true with one tank wont be true with another. As an example I have never quarantined a fish in the five years I have been in this hobby and I have never dealt with ick, or any other parasites. Now if I got my fish from Petco instead of my great LFS I would definitely want to QT my fish.

Saying a fish needs a certain size of tank and wont do well in anything less is wrong imo. If a fish is eating, active, and shows no signs of stress or illness what more could you ask for. You cant quantify happiness in fish and we have no idea if a yellow tang in a 400 gallon tank is any happier than my yellow tang in my 55 gallon if they are both eating, active, and show no signs of illness/stress. However the OP's fish are showing signs of stress/illness and are not suited for the tank they are in.
 
Will update tomorrow. Lots of things happenned today for the better.
Thanks for all your advices. I truly appreciate it.

I hope this is one of those threads just to get everyone riled up. There's NO WAY anything happened yesterday 'for the better' in a 60 gal tank that has 2 tangs, a sweetlips, and ich.
 
Take it easy. Well i went to the fish store and asked for help. Also after reading up on ick, i have decided to do it my way. I got a bottle of reef safe 100% natural Micro lift Herbtana and Micro-lift special blend. Followed manufactured direction, i put some of that stuff in there. I also fed them food dipped in fresh garlic juice. My fishes have less spots on them today. My corals are doing well in the tank also. What more can i ask for!
If this treatment is successful, i will keep my tank as is and run it more the next 6 months without adding more live stock.

P.s.My fishes are eating like pigs....yeahhh..
 
It's your tank do what you wish. Just remember all the advice you received here in this thread when everything in your tank is dead. Even if you defy the odds and become the first successful person to treat ich WITHIN the reef tank, it doesn't change the fact that the tank is too small for the fish you currently have.
 
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Read my sig. If everyone is telling you not to do a certian thing, its for a reason...
 
He keeps dodging the fact that the fish are too small for his tank. I wish him the best, but somehow I don't see anything good coming out of this problem. Like someone else said, just because the "white spots" fell off, doesn't mean the ich is gone. Its most likely breeding in the substrate, just waiting to host again off your fish...
 
You really need to stop adding random stuff to your tank, no "reef safe" med is going to cure ich, copper and hypo are the only two things proven to work to cure ich. Otherwise it's still in the tank, it will drop off the fish, that's just part of the life cycle, it's not gone. If ich isn't cured then it's going to reflare up everytime your fish stress, or something changes, or you add another fish. Easiest way to get rid of ich would be remove all the fish, return them to a store you got them from, none are suitable for your tank anyways, leave the tank empty for at least six weeks. During those six weeks do a ton of reading on suitable fish, make a fish list (you don't want to add all at once or add aggressive fish like tangs first) plan things out and take it slowly. Do research BEFORE you add anything, not after.
 
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