gjustinj
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Help! Purchased Flame Angel and I'm pretty sure it has ICH!
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Tripod1404
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What do you mean by toxic; like poisonous or venomous or something that can make the water toxic.
Are corals are more or less venomous, they have stinging cells like their close relatives jellyfish and sea anemones. But with the exception of few, they cannot penerate the dead cell layer on you skin. So unless you hold them for a very long time or have an open wound, you wont feel a thing. There are some corals in euphyllia genus that have better stinging capacity. It can be painfull at first and your hand will feel numb for some time.
There are also poisonous ones, most soft corals are like this. Since they dont have a skeleton to hide into, they have deterring poison.
There are few that are toxic, be careful if you ever get such a coral (such as paly coral). They release the toxin if they die or severely stressed, not only they can kill everything in tank with this, if you put your arm in the tank and if you have an open would or if you boil the rock with these on it, it can even kill a person.
gjustinj
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Yea i plan to only add easy coral that will not kill me or my fish. Just like a Lion Fish - I won't go down that road. They are def cool to look at the fish store tho.
gjustinj
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It says they will take over my tank if I'm not careful. They can be toxic so handle them with care- great I touched them with my hands, the guy at fish store did too. he said they were easy to take care of and safe, and just to put them in the tank with good lighting and good water.
Duncans...mmm. Stony, but weird stony. And the zoas will be low light. You've got two coral types. I'd say watch and see which thrives, then get more of that and trade in the one that's not so much. The problem with stony and softies (zoas) in the same tank is that softies spit and stonies don't like softie spit in the water. Best to pick one type or the other. Either is good. Do DIP the corals in something appropriate---never kept zoas, so I can't say for them, but I use Revive as a dip for lps. This gets rid of THEIR version of pests---pity fish parasites aren't as cooperative. With zoas, it's a good idea to keep them by themselves for a few days and dip them twice, because their pests lay eggs that the dips don't get --- until they hatch. Talk to a zoa owner about protocols for those. It's not that you can't keep stonies and softies in the same tank---it's just a little harder to get them both happy.
gjustinj
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What do you mean by dip them? appropriate? Is this some kind of liquid you buy for acclimating coral? I have no idea what this means
I thought i just bought super beginner coral and I just threw them in there and they would not harm my fish or anything as long as the water was safe for the fish, and the lighting was a sun/moon cycle throughout the day. I also specifically asked if either coral was toxic and then said no.
Geez I can't win lol
heathlindner25
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You have already purchased a coral that has the potential to have one of the deadliest poisons known to man... but I wouldn't worry about it. Search paly toxin.
sde1500
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Zoas can contain palytoxin which is very dangerous. Handle with care and you're fine. I don't (often) stick my hands in the tank if I have cuts. I wear glasses when I've fragged them. I have 7 different zoas and never had an issue. Others have plenty more and been fine. Just know the danger is there.
Dips kill pests. Revive, polyplab has one, diluted bayer insecticide, and others. Zoa eating nudibranches will devour all your zoas. I never dip, no issues yet. That's up to you.
Biggest thing I've seen here is the comments of just doing something. You've just assumed and done something. And done it quickly. You put more fish and coral in your tank in the first month than I did in 6 months. The corals you have should be forgiving though Duncans are weird. Think of all these corals as animals. As someone else here said, you wouldn't buy animals like horses or chickens or a dog without knowing how to care for them I hope. Do the same for the tank, fish and corals both and you'll be ok.
Dips kill pests. Revive, polyplab has one, diluted bayer insecticide, and others. Zoa eating nudibranches will devour all your zoas. I never dip, no issues yet. That's up to you.
Biggest thing I've seen here is the comments of just doing something. You've just assumed and done something. And done it quickly. You put more fish and coral in your tank in the first month than I did in 6 months. The corals you have should be forgiving though Duncans are weird. Think of all these corals as animals. As someone else here said, you wouldn't buy animals like horses or chickens or a dog without knowing how to care for them I hope. Do the same for the tank, fish and corals both and you'll be ok.
heathlindner25
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I am hypersensitive to Coral Sting's. Whenever I touch my bubble Coral I will have sores on my hand for months if not half a year:eek1: I honestly think it's from overexposure
Tripod1404
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Really, the only coral that I cannot touch is my hammer. I made the mistake of trying to rotate the plug while it was still out of its skeleton. I get stung and my arm felt numb for 2 days
. Now I either wait for the lights to turn off so it goes into its skeleton or poke it with a small rock to force it to close. Lesson learned I touch my bubble coral without any pain, actually I am feeding it pieces of shrimp directly from hand. You know they have those feeding tentacles that come out during feeding time or during night, those were actually sticking to my hand but it still didn't hurt.
heathlindner25
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Really, the only coral that I cannot touch is my hammer. I made the mistake of trying to rotate the plug while it was still out of its skeleton. I get stung and my arm felt numb for 2 days
I touch my bubble coral without any pain, actually I am feeding it pieces of shrimp directly from hand. You know they have those feeding tentacles that come out during feeding time or during night, those were actually sticking to my hand but it still didn't hurt.
Oh, I know its me..... I used to work at a fish store that had a softy ,LPS ,and SPS system.
Every time I put my hand in the Softy system it would start the burn without even touching Coral
Tripod1404
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What do you mean by dip them? appropriate? Is this some kind of liquid you buy for acclimating coral? I have no idea what this means
I thought i just bought super beginner coral and I just threw them in there and they would not harm my fish or anything as long as the water was safe for the fish, and the lighting was a sun/moon cycle throughout the day. I also specifically asked if either coral was toxic and then said no.
Geez I can't win lol
There are some coral dips that you can use to ensure the coral doesn't bring parasites or diseases to your system. Some of those pest can be coral parasites like coral eating flatworms or copepods. If you google "coral dip" it would list most of the dips out there.
There is also a remote chance that a coral can carry fish parasites on it. Although I dont think any fish parasite can infect the coral, they might attach to it. Some people quarantine their corals like fish to prevent such introductions. But that is a harder thing since you need a fully functioning tank with lights and etc. At this point you dont need to worry about that, a dip would work 95% of the time. In the future if you decide to have a tank full of expensive corals, you might want to invest in such a system.
Tripod1404
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Man it is never a good idea to hypo the main display, it is a last resort effort. It causes so many issues and even if everything works well in the end, you end up with algae infestation.
heathlindner25
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You have not read this thread at all.hth
palythoas are the dangerous ones, sea mat; look them up on the web or read the sticky above. Their structure is somewhat like zoas, but if these were sold as zoas, they're probably really zoas. [Then this is the lfs that told you ich laid eggs.]
Other corals are not dangerous, but you can sensitize yourself to them by not wearing gloves.
I gave you the brand name on the coral dip. Revive. Your LFS should have it. If they don't, order on line. Henceforward don't put any undipped coral in your tank: not ask risky as fish---unless you get one that's got a problem. THen, yes, it's a pita.
Other corals are not dangerous, but you can sensitize yourself to them by not wearing gloves.
I gave you the brand name on the coral dip. Revive. Your LFS should have it. If they don't, order on line. Henceforward don't put any undipped coral in your tank: not ask risky as fish---unless you get one that's got a problem. THen, yes, it's a pita.
heathlindner25
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Working the exact opposite for me.... the more I handle them the more I got stung.
Dale_M
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heathlindner25
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Have you begun making your final arrangements?
Just kidding...
Morbid humor,gotta love it.:lolspin:
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