Help this nem color up

[crazyfishgirl]

I have this gbta that I got about a month ago, (my tank is 2 years old) it was bleached when I bought it, but not white. A light green. When I put it in my tank it attached to the rock I wanted it immediately, but has since moved, first underneath a rock that I was able to turn over to give it some light but it moved back underneath again. It has since moved to one of my foundation rocks underneath an overhang where it gets some light. It seems happy, eats well ( piece of scallop every 3rd day ) it's sticky,bubbly and is hosting my clown with no ill effects. It hasn't bleached anymore, but hasn't really regained any color. I can't move the rock as its holding up part of my aquascape, but I don't feel like this nem is getting enough light. Lights are 150w led over a 39 gallon cube. Params are:
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 10
Ph 8.2
It seems to have its happy spot, so I'm reluctant to try and move it. Will it color up over time? Are my lights too bright? I have the whites set on 65% blues 99%
Any help is appreciated

 

[MikeTR]

Going to take several months and weekly feedings of silversides (no heads, no tails) to get it back. Don't worry about moving it, it will move where it wants, which is usually where you don't want it.

 

[Sugar Magnolia]

Offer it some thawed Mysis a couple of times a week.

 

[tatuaje08]

No silversides. Mysis, krill or squid for me. It should regain some of its color over time. However, btas will often change color when moved to a new tank so its possible it will never look like it did before.

 

[NanoJosh]

Try the new zooxanthele from Algagen mix it with the food ur target feeding and dose the whole tank with it too expensive but a lil goes a long way.


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[crazyfishgirl]

No silversides. Mysis, krill or squid for me. It should regain some of its color over time. However, btas will often change color when moved to a new tank so its possible it will never look like it did before.

I don't feed silversides, heard too many stories of nems dying after eating them to chance it. I feed scallops

Try the new zooxanthele from Algagen mix it with the food ur target feeding and dose the whole tank with it too expensive but a lil goes a long way.

Where can I find this stuff? Sounds like it might help

 

[MikeTR]

Since when are nems hand fed mysis in the wild? They get bits and pieces of whatevers dead or dying that floats by. I'd find it damn near impossible for a BTA which can literally be cut in half to propogate, to die from eating a piece of a minnow.

 

[NanoJosh]

Algagen is the company they culture all kinds of pods and phyto near me in vero FL check out there website. And u can call em to see if they have a distributor near you.


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[tatuaje08]

Since when are nems hand fed mysis in the wild? They get bits and pieces of whatevers dead or dying that floats by. I'd find it damn near impossible for a BTA which can literally be cut in half to propogate, to die from eating a piece of a minnow.

Minnows aren't a problem. Tainted and rotten minnows are.

 

[Daniel62]

Yes, you can never tell what color they will end up in your tank. Lighting, water chemistry etc. all play a part in their coloring.

Especially after they have bleached out. I have over a dozen BTAs under different lighting in dfferent tanks and some of the clones are different colors because of this.

Even when I move them back to the same tank I can tell which Nem was from which tank. If I rember right, I read some where, that they will produce the zooanthella (?) that works best for the wave length of lighting they have available. Which is where they get their coloring I believe.

They will always go where they like it best in your tank, in regards to lighting and flow

Good luck

 

[jwoyshnar]

Since when are nems hand fed mysis in the wild? They get bits and pieces of whatevers dead or dying that floats by. I'd find it damn near impossible for a BTA which can literally be cut in half to propogate, to die from eating a piece of a minnow.

They sometimes don't digest properly and take a while. Rotting then ensues and could kill the nem. Many reported cases of this happening.

 

[shred5]

They sometimes don't digest properly and take a while. Rotting then ensues and could kill the nem. Many reported cases of this happening.

Now this is the craziest thing I have heard yet on silversides.

Silversides may not be the best thing to feed a anemone that is bleached because it takes to much energy to digest them because of there size. The anemone should be feed smaller particles of food but not to small either. I feed chopped shrimp or mysis. Also no need for Algagen, I have saved several bleached anemones and never used anything. They will get their color back. Problem is in most cases they will never look as good as they did before the bleaching.

 

[NanoJosh]

Now this is the craziest thing I have heard yet on silversides.

Silversides may not be the best thing to feed a anemone that is bleached because it takes to much energy to digest them because of there size. The anemone should be feed smaller particles of food but not to small either. I feed chopped shrimp or mysis. Also no need for Algagen, I have saved several bleached anemones and never used anything. They will get their color back. Problem is in most cases they will never look as good as they did before the bleaching.

So you don't think the zooxanthele will help speed up the process or it's just not necessary. I would think the more they can take in the quicker they get there color back.


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[NanoJosh]

Oh yeah and how in our enclosed system do they get new zooxanthele unless we add it.


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[shred5]

I have brought back lots of bleached anemones. I have never added any Zooxanthellae to the water. I am bring back a bleached Gigantea right now that was white as snow as is turning brown now.

Why add a product that does not ever claim to be used that way, it is marketed as a food. Is it even the right zooxanthellae to begin with and what is the quality of that zooxanthellae to begin with by the time it is harvested and makes it into your tank.


PhycoPure is marketed as a food (phytoplankton) not to replace Zooxanthellae in a bleaching indecent.

 

[NanoJosh]

No it's not phycopure it's a new product that's straight zoo. I get it the same day as harvest being in the same town as them. I see what ur saying though how long can it last in the fridge. Ill have to find out what zoo it is I think the bottle says zooxanthele B but ill ask him next time I'm there.


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[shred5]

Its this stuff:

http://************.com/2013/05/23/algagen-phytopure-zooxanthellae/

I think most people know the site too fill in the blanks and it is phycopure just different from type of phycopure. I still have to many questions to believe their claims on this stuff... Interesting concept but even if it works do you need it.

I have never had to add any zooxanthellae to my tank to ever bring back a bleached coral or anemone.

Edit

here it is again?
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=2190+3250&pcatid=3250

Again it does not claim to be used for bleached corals. It says it enhances the colors of coral which I don't understand since Zoox are brown and higher concentrations of Zooxanthallae the more brown a coral will look.. Still an interesting concept and I would be interested to see if it actually did anything but still have doubts it works or is needed.

 

[crazyfishgirl]

Yes, you can never tell what color they will end up in your tank. Lighting, water chemistry etc. all play a part in their coloring.

Especially after they have bleached out. I have over a dozen BTAs under different lighting in dfferent tanks and some of the clones are different colors because of this.

Even when I move them back to the same tank I can tell which Nem was from which tank. If I rember right, I read some where, that they will produce the zooanthella (?) that works best for the wave length of lighting they have available. Which is where they get their coloring I believe.

They will always go where they like it best in your tank, in regards to lighting and flow

Good luck

Yeah, mine seems perfectly happy under the overhang getting only filtered light. I'll just keep feeding him and see what happens.

 

[NanoJosh]

Again it does not claim to be used for bleached corals. It says it enhances the colors of coral which I don't understand since Zoox are brown and higher concentrations of Zooxanthallae the more brown a coral will look.. Still an interesting concept and I would be interested to see if it actually did anything but still have doubts it works or is needed.

Good point what gives the corals florescence I thought it was the zoos.


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[shred5]

Pigments and proteins in the corals.. They are use to either enhance light, reflect light or protect like a sunscreen.

Corals and anemones can regulate the amount of zooxanthellae in their bodies.. They can cultivate it if they need more or discharge it through their oral disk if they need less... Allot of people speculate if the corals and anemones can collect zoox from the water that is discharged from other corals in the tank.. Honestly I don't think they discharge 100 percent of the zooxanthellae it would be suicide. I think they hold on too a little bit when they bleach in most cases.