brad65ford
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Sweet no sand I love it!
Help with SPS color
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And I believe you found the issue right there.....
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brad65ford
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Its not to late KM, there is always a bb system in your future. Yes I know I've said this before 
kissman
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Its not to late KM, there is always a bb system in your future. Yes I know I've said this before
You really like the BB lol! I want a 1" I just like the look of sand better than a BB, to me looks more natural
Looking back at the original post, nutrients from a dirty sand bed were not the problem, it looked more nutrient poor than nutrient rich, and your test results showed the same. Lots of light and hungry corals lead to pale and sickly corals. If the sand bed were causing issues, your nitrates would been measurable instead of zero. I hope the restart goes better and you feed the tank, it does make a difference.
kissman
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I think the DSB might have been the start and one of a few possible issues. I did have very high NO3 and PO4 at one time and had been vinegar dosing for some time and overdosed and stripped the nutrients. On the other hand if my nutrients were zero I would not have had the forest of Xenia. I honestly don't think I will ever know what was going on. I really think I am doing the best thing by restarting my tank. I want to keep this thread going through the process to keep it updated just for the simple fact if nothing else to show success I hope eventually. As I get to each step I will come to this thread and ask. I know I don't plan on adding any corals for probably 6 months from now but we will see. I want this to be successful this time. So before I do anything I will come back to this thread to ask things like, when to add clean up crew, when to start trying to get calcium and alkalinity balanced etc.... This has been a great thread and has a lot great info and a lot of followers that might be thinking the same thing to do a restart. We will see what happens! Thanks to everybody that has contributed to this thread! Here is a thread on the new aquascape I did. Lots of surface for corals!
Be sure and test the water for po4, Pukani has a long history of leaching phosphates out for a long time. Take a moment and read this thread, it will give you an idea of how much po4 can be trapped in that rock.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2145395
Pukani is beautiful rock, but unless you deal with the po4 you may end up right back in this thread wondering how to get rid of the hair algae. I would hate to see that, you have been through enough already.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2145395
Pukani is beautiful rock, but unless you deal with the po4 you may end up right back in this thread wondering how to get rid of the hair algae. I would hate to see that, you have been through enough already.
I somewhat agree. If nitrates and phosphates were very low/undetectable, and the water turned filthy dark after only a couple scoops, there was clearly something else building up within the sand bed.
Best of luck on the fresh start!
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kissman
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I haven't tested PO4 yet but I am sure it will be off the charts. I have done a lot of reading. I am thinking of running HC GFO during the curing to help, my skimmer goes crazy when I crank it up. I will rid all the PO4 before I turn lights on or add live stock
brad65ford
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NO G04, things need to do it naturally.. Another good reason to go with live rock , you don't have to wait for the curing process. This includes waiting for the p04 to be removed.
Honestly I'm starting to dislike dry rock these days, its seems like it looks great from the outside but you never know what it was seeded with. Been there.
Take your time Kissman, I thought you said you weren't going to run g04
Can rush this stuff.
Honestly I'm starting to dislike dry rock these days, its seems like it looks great from the outside but you never know what it was seeded with. Been there.
Take your time Kissman, I thought you said you weren't going to run g04
Can rush this stuff.
kissman
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NO G04, things need to do it naturally.. Another good reason to go with live rock , you don't have to wait for the curing process. This includes waiting for the p04 to be removed.
Honestly I'm starting to dislike dry rock these days, its seems like it looks great from the outside but you never know what it was seeded with. Been there.
Take your time Kissman, I thought you said you weren't going to run g04
So don't worry about reducing any PO4 levels right now? Just wait 4 weeks and do a 100% water change and then test and start cycle? I am not going to run GFO on tank once it has cycled. I am just trying to make sure I get the PO4 out of rock
brad65ford
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I wouldn't, let the process go as BRS suggests. If there was a super charged way of doing it trust me I would know. I wouldn't run any lights either like they suggest. Also if you are cycling this way you can do it BB so it would be easier to suck up the detritus. Its amazing how much stuff is accumulated.
