Hermit crabs? Pro or Con?

The ones I hate are the zebra ones, they are crazy and are always attacking something or another. I have 6 different kinds and the rest are fine except the zebra ones.
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+1 lol mine is very temperamental. I am going to stick him in my sump soon. he doesn't bother anyone unless food is involved, but man he gets aggressive if someone is near his food. I love his colors though.
 
I don't like them much myself. a couple are not bad, so one per 20-50 gallons of water, but very many like many shops suggest is nothing but trouble, they will kill your snails still food from corals, and in general just be a pain in the behind.

Kim
 
I haven't used them in several years. Just too predatory for me and they pick at everything.
 
Take a trip to a nice looking reef in the pacific and you'll surely find a million of them all over the coral and rock......the way I look at it is if mother nature put them on a reef, then I'm going to put them in my reef.....along with snails, crabs, shrimp and whatever else within reason.
 
I have a medium grain substrate. I find that snails like to stay on the glass, even my "burrowing " snails, given this substrate. Only hermits seem to patrol the substrate. So, I make it a point to have hermits, even bought another half a dozen of the small red and blue leg variety this weekend.
 
You wont find blued legged hermits (Clibanarius tricolor) or scarlet hermits ( Paguristes cardenati) or red leg hermits ( paruristes digueti) ,the 3 most commonly used in aquariums as the blue legs and scarlets are from the Carribean and the red leg is from the Gulf of Califorinia.
 
I personally like them but I don't keep nearly as many as recommended. I epoxy all of my frags so bulldozing isn't a problem and my nerite snails have hundreds of eggs all over my tank so losing a few snails isn't an issue either. They're funny to watch and do an awesome job grabbing any leftover piece of food. The only real issue I had was when they overran my LPS during target feeding but thats easily fixed by covering the coral with a plastic container. I'd try a handful and if you find them acceptable you can always add more.
 
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I've always had BL hermits and the occational Scarlett. I like them better than snails, but I've got them too. I think I'll always have some BL's.
 
I am wary of any crab. All crabs are opportunistic. Its just not worth the risk of them nipping at coral polyps and killing snails. I see no reason to have them other than people think they are neat lol.

My CUC is comprised entirely of snails. Nass, Cerith, astrea, trochus
 
I love the tiny blue legs even if they knock out the occasional snail, for me they just look cooler and add an extra dimension to the tank :)
 
You wont find blued legged hermits (Clibanarius tricolor) or scarlet hermits ( Paguristes cardenati) or red leg hermits ( paruristes digueti) ,the 3 most commonly used in aquariums as the blue legs and scarlets are from the Carribean and the red leg is from the Gulf of Califorinia.

Very true, but there are some species (zebra/electric blue) that inhabit the reefs around some of the Hawaiian islands that are especially good at mowing down all sorts of algae.
 
I haven't used them in several years. Just too predatory for me and they pick at everything.

+1 Same here. I wouldn't add hermits to my systems if they were free..
Every type, green, red, blue, stripped, purple.. I've tried more than a few kinds over the years with the same result.

I don't keep them as they kill snails, IME. The snails (Astrea and Trochus) do everthing I need and I don't want some maruading retarded hermit crab crab killing them for their shells or whatever. I have a few small emerald crabs but havent lost any snails to them in over 3 years. Just my two cents. GL!
 
The electic blue version of the zebra( calcinus elegans )is an indo pacific species not Hawaian.. The orange stiped version is Hawaian. Both grow to 2 inches and will kill other animals. The dwarf zebra hermit ( Calcinus laevimanus) has black and white legs and is smaller than the other two but still a threat to other animals.
 
Hunh. Well, here's my take on things: If you're getting hermits for CUC, they don't belong there. Snails do better. You can get Nassas that'll stir up your sandbed, astreas and turbos that'll clean off algae, etc (ceriths are useless, IMO). In fact, unless you have a large predatory fish that drops chunks of flesh around, you don't really need a hermit crab.

BUT: I find them interesting and adorable. I've kept the "worst" species with no damage to corals or snails. Shrimp are more terrible than hermits at feeding time, IMO - the peppermints will stop at nothing to pull a piece of food out of a duncan head. But you do need to feed them, unlike snails, because if you expect them to just live off detritus and algae than you'd better be expecting aggression. Also, I take the whole "hermits killing everything" spiel with a grain of salt - I've found that mine are able to sense a freshly deceased fish (within the last few minutes) and absolutely demolish the body in about ten minutes.

As for species - Electric Blues are one of the gentlest hermits. They do have a habit of holing up in a crevice and staying there for ages - the first few times this happened, we removed the hermit from the crack and he crawled right back into it :/ They love grazing on chaetomorph, and would rather tuck into their shells than fight. They're also very slow growers, and won't get to two inches any time soon. Mine seems to have capped at about an inch, maybe an inch and a quarter.

"Dwarf" zebras will get about two inches. Left handed hermits get larger - the largest in my tank is at least two and a half inches. Both are food aggressive and will fight over scraps, but otherwise I've never seen them bother anything or pick at corals. If you're feeding something else, drop a good-sized pellet in for them to fight over first, and you shouldn't have any problems.
 
I agree"reef safe shrimp" shrimp, particularly peppermints (lystmata bogessi/ wundermanni) can do damage to corals particularly to zoanthus and acanastrea lordhowensis and micromussa but that's another topic.

There is no reason not to keep various hermits in suitable biotypes if you like them or even in reefs in small numbers without animals that they are likely to harm.

They are not needed for cuc except perhaps to scavenge uneaten food if that's an issue.Snails are better herbivores,ime. Crabs or hermits are certainly not desireable in the large numbers commonly recommended for cuc. .For many specimens their predatory nature comes out sooner or later so observation and caution are prudent steps if you choose to keep them. Reading up on particular specimens you may wish to keep is also worth the effort.
 
Take a trip to a nice looking reef in the pacific and you'll surely find a million of them all over the coral and rock......the way I look at it is if mother nature put them on a reef, then I'm going to put them in my reef.....along with snails, crabs, shrimp and whatever else within reason.

So I hope you have coral eating butterflys, Parrotfish and large angels in your reef tank as well, since mother nature put all the coral preditors on natural reefs.
 
i put all mine in my sump till i hit the LRS again. they pummel my war coral and all my other lps. they... must... GOOO! :uzi:

-- oppinion of self not to dsturb anyone elses
 
I think hermits crabs do have a place in a reef aquarium, but not at the ratios most people keep them at. One scarlet hermit to every 25 gallons has worked well for me. There's plenty of time and space between snail & hermit crab encounters this way.

+1. I have five in my 125 and the main reason they are in there is just because I think they are cool little guys. I've also never had one bother a coral. If I caught one doing that they would quickly become octopus food.;)
 
I am not a big fan of the hemits as I have found them to pick food off of my LPS. I do have some hermits but do plan on taking some of the larger ones out. I don't mind the blue leg or the scarlet ones. All others are a PITA.
 
Steve

I think hermits are great detrivores.

I like the real small blue legs, as they get in and around the corals and do a great job picking on detritus build up and maybe even help in eating coral predators like AEFW eggs. Blue legs are self destructing tank fodder, only a couple in a hundred will reach maturity as they kill each other off for their shells. The few that do get larger will go after snails but as long as the snail is healthy and not a ("oh no I can't pull my self over", dumbest creature on earth) Astraea snail you should be okay in this department. Again I like the "lil" guys.

I also like the scarlet's, they are very passive, never bother each other and I've not even seen them go after snails, they just cruse around picking at the rocks.

HTH
 
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