Household products or situations that can damage your tank

Sk8r

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1. pesticides
2. ammonia- or petroleum-based glass cleaners
3. scented candles
4. carpet fresheners
5. paints, refinishers and other associated products like thinners and cleaners, including from hobby.
6. smoke, including heavy tobacco smoke
7. air fresheners
8. Lysol and other cleaners
9. antimicrobial or antibiotic sponges or cleaners or gloves
10. flea treatments

In general, these may be part of modern living---BUT you have to take precautions and read labels AND use your nose.

A basic fact of biology---if you can smell it, volatile (flying) particles are coming off the stuff into the air and entering your nose. They are also entering your unprotected tank. In sufficient numbers, and of particular kinds, they can cause problems.

A basic of language: anti- is Greek for 'against' or 'preventing', -bio or microbio- means 'life' or 'microlife'. Anything that says antibiotic or antimicrobial is intended to kill things. Sometimes this means disease-causing germs. But sometimes, as in an antimicrobial coating on your gloves, it is going to kill the GOOD bacteria.

A basic way to think of protection. Just remove the bad stuff from the vicinity of your tank. EG: Spray the glass cleaner onto a cloth in an adjacent room and carry the cloth to your tank front or coffee table. Be CAREFUL not to drip it. And if you are fortunate enough to have someone doing stuff FOR you---be sure you make it clear how they have to protect that tank.

Having a canopy IS a major protection against pets, children, well-meaning uncles, and housekeepers with a mission. Securing the feeding/access is a good move if you have someone who doesn't listen. Superglue and a small lock, eg.
To solve the heat issue even for metal halides, you can get a fan array, as many as 4 small fans in a bar, which will mightily work to cool down the problems a canopy creates.

Opening the windows wide, no matter the season, if you have an Issue going on, is a good idea. So are a few potent fans. Dilution helps, be it air or water.

Water changes and carbon can help. So can a product called PolyFilter. Because the latter absorbs organics and saturates fast in a live tank, it's not as helpful as might be, but it will sop up heavy metals and all sorts of problems, too: you might just have to keep renewing it, and it's not cheap.

In the ultimate, when you have to fumigate the premises, or in case of nasty volatiles which must be used, turn off your lights to prevent heat buildup, turn off your main pump, and saran-wrap or tent your tank. Into the tank, and possibly needful, the sump, place airstones with a potent airpump OUTSIDE THE HOUSE, running airline through a window or door, which will keep pumping good outside air in, keeping water aerated, while everything is wrapped up tight. Doublecheck to make sure workmen have not closed the windows or messed up the lines.

When painting a room, you can get away with paint if you choose a 'mild' smelling paint, do all brush cleaning with water or elsewhere, and open the windows.

Fish are a bit more tolerant than, say, birds, but a lot harder to take with you.

Hope this list will help you be alert for problems and save you some headaches.
 
Yeah, watch where the old lady sprays the dang fabreeze. She uses enough of it to choke a horse.

I had to inform her that the tank was a no spray zone. To which she said "that's the smelliest place!"

Lol the turmoils of 1st world marriage.
 
I understand you are focusing on Chemical threats in this post. But I'd like to add the following to "situations" that can destroy or damage a reef tank, and all are easily avoidable.

1) Being unprepared for an extended power outage. You have to keep the water moving and the temperature no higher or lower than about a 72F-83F range. That's it. Your car, an inverter & an extension cord can save years of effort.

2) Mistakes made during your absence. Vacations. Over feeding by well intentioned pet sitters happens. Make sure you've thoroughly tested all of your automation efforts before trusting the, while you're away. Don't install an ATO the day before you go on your trip. Make sure you have confidence in the person or the automation scheme so you can enjoy your travels. It's best to have a plan A, B & C if possible.

3) Magnetic cleaners. The conventional designs easily scratch glass in the wrong hands. Don't leave them attached to the glass in plain view. For some reason people and kids are fascinated with them.

4) Leaks & floods. Do everything you can to prevent these. Make sure a stuck ATO can't flood the sump. Check everything on a regular basis. Use hose clamps. Never leave a siphon or RODI water making session unattended unless the room can handle water on the floor.
 
Well on the topic...would anybody use a glass cleaner made natural stuff? Claim to not streak etc etc. Ill post photos
The warning seema serious....but i think that's when its concetrated and not diluted. I was going to dilute with RoDI water.

Says no phospates etc etc

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What is wrong with scented candles? So if one is on the table 10 feet from the tank? The sprays and cleaners I totally get.

My wife burns them and I can make sure they stay in the kitchen but I'm curious on that one.
 
arsenic is also a natural product. No. No glass cleaner sprayed near your tank. Spray it in the other room.

Scented candles release volatiles. If you can smell it, don't do it near your tank. If you must have one, put it in the other room, and choose soy candles---they seem to generate fewer complaints. I use a soy one in my kitchen on occasion. I also use Feliway for the cats. I do not put the plugin in the same room as the tank.
 
It's safest to be cautious. I can't predict what you may get away with occasionally and what should be a wild 'run for the PolyFilter and use carbon' situation except to say, generally, if it's poisonous, if it smells, if it changes the ph, or is an oil that can get on the surface of the water, or kills bacteria, it's not a good thing to put in the room with your tank. Give the wife some nice soy candles in a jar: cinnamon is a good flavor for covering cooking smells. That'll surprise her and still keep problems from your tank.

Incidentally PolyFIlter and carbon with a bag for use are good things to have on hand in case there is a contamination.

It's weird what can cause problems. A guest spilling a martini or daquiri into your tank is NOT as big a problem as a youngster tossing in a penny. Experience and the misfortunes of others will build your database of what's ok and not, but in the new-to-hobby forum, best I can say is, if it smells or if it kills bacteria, don't.
 
Wow, thanks for the info. Eye opening. Goes to show that sometimes when you're new, you don't know what you don't know.

I would have never that figured scented candles could damage an aquarium and I use them around the house a lot. Again, thanks for the information.
 
I'm having a struggle with a service customer whose housekeeper uses extremely strong amounts of Fabuloso. I had another customer send their tank downhill when new management started mopping around the tank with Fabuloso. It's taken 3 months to get certain families of coral to grow again - that was an SPS tank. After seeing it twice with the same product's introduction around very mature tanks, I'm willing to villify it.

So, does anyone have any suggestions as to what floor cleaning products are safe to use in stronger concentrations? The two systems I mentioned require deep cleaning around the tanks - one is in a hotel lobby; the other has lots of pets. Both are fairly well protected in terms of cabinetry. My go-to is vinegar, but many people find the smell objectionable. How about a commercial product that is less harsh?
 
Vinegar is one of the best. YOu can also get away with a single reasonable soy candle with an odorant like cinnamon. I have also found Feliway (a cat calmative) is safe. Vinegar is absolutely safe. Baking soda is safe. YOu can even use Pledge or Sprayway (which contains petroleum) IF YOU SPRAY THE CLOTH IN ANOTHER ROOM and don't overdo it in the tank room. The aerosol of many products is far more damaging than just the use of them. Just don't add more to the cloth while you are standing in the tank room, be that your living room or whatever Do it in the kitchen---assuming that is not where you have your tank---and turn on the range hood, for extra safety.
 
I wonder if Simple Green might fit the bill?
It's available wholesale to hotels and stuff through regular cleaning supply distributors. It works well enough that people aren't tempted to try to sneak in with stronger stuff, and it's not much more expensive. I sympathize with the cleaners, it's tough when your main job is getting the floors shiny but you've also got a really delicate tank in the way. Idk if simple green is all that safe, or just "safer" so I can't really recommend it. But I've have good luck getting people to switch to it from really dangerous chemicals in other situations, so it might be worth looking into.

Another thought would be to find out what hospitals use to clean like baby units and places where people are that can't have strong chemicals for other reasons. That might be a good balance of easy, effective, and safe.
 
I wonder if Simple Green might fit the bill?
It's available wholesale to hotels and stuff through regular cleaning supply distributors. It works well enough that people aren't tempted to try to sneak in with stronger stuff, and it's not much more expensive. I sympathize with the cleaners, it's tough when your main job is getting the floors shiny but you've also got a really delicate tank in the way. Idk if simple green is all that safe, or just "safer" so I can't really recommend it. But I've have good luck getting people to switch to it from really dangerous chemicals in other situations, so it might be worth looking into.

Another thought would be to find out what hospitals use to clean like baby units and places where people are that can't have strong chemicals for other reasons. That might be a good balance of easy, effective, and safe.

I was wondering the same thing as I was reading this. I used to use Simple Green while cleaning a place that was exposed to many diseases and body fluids. It had a pleasant smell and was effective even when diluted to almost no smell.
 
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