how can this be!!! please id/confirm ich

[avandss]

HOW CAN THIS BE! i am starting to think it is impossible to have a disease free tank, my tank is newly setup, currently in my display there is 7 anthias and 2 clowns, no corals but a bunch snails and 2 cleaner shrimps

nothing has been added to the tank for 60 days about. last was a bunch of snails 60 days ago.

the anthias and clowns did 10 days of prazi and 4 weeks of copper then 1 week observation

today out of no where i see this on my clown... only fish in the tank that has this, other clown is fine.

what can this be? how did i get ich!!

 

[Cujo13]

Did you QT the invertebrates? I did not and got ich...never again.

 

[avandss]

no i did not, it can take 60 days to show signs? is this 100% ich you think??

 

[HumbleFish]

The white spots... do they appear to be under the skin? Or protruding outwards?

 

[avandss]

under the skin i think.

 

[HumbleFish]

under the skin i think.

That would indicate ich. I would wait though before pushing the panic button. Observe to see if more spots appear and if the existing ones drop off in 3-7 days time.

 

[avandss]

will do. thank you!

 

[avandss]

ok the white dot slowly faded away.

how can i confirm ich. timeline wise?

 

[Zacktosterone]

isn't it like HIGHLY unlikely to contrct ich from invertebrates or coral?

 

[avandss]

Apparently not. Specially in this case if ich is confirmed

Also just noticed the dot is still there. Nothing has changed and no one else is showing signs

 

[HumbleFish]

isn't it like HIGHLY unlikely to contrct ich from invertebrates or coral?

It's actually very possible if the coral/invert comes from a system with infected fish. A tomont could encyst upon a rock or plug, or perhaps even the coral itself. And there's also the possibility of inadvertently bringing in a free swimmer on a droplet of water.

Apparently not. Specially in this case if ich is confirmed

Also just noticed the dot is still there. Nothing has changed and no one else is showing signs

The dots should remain on the fish 3-7 days and then drop off. If it stays longer, then it might be Lympho or something else.

 

[Deinonych]

isn't it like HIGHLY unlikely to contrct ich from invertebrates or coral?

Nope. Happened to me last year. Now everything wet gets a ride through QT; inverts go for 72 days.

 

[Deinonych]

The dots should remain on the fish 3-7 days and then drop off. If it stays longer, then it might be Lympho or something else.

+1

If it slowly fades away, it's probably not crypto. Agree that you should observe for now, especially if the fish in question isn't showing other symptoms (flashing, twitching, heavy breathing etc). Crypto is not a swift killer, so you have plenty of time to prepare for treatment if confirmed.

 

[avandss]

+1

If it slowly fades away, it's probably not crypto. Agree that you should observe for now, especially if the fish in question isn't showing other symptoms (flashing, twitching, heavy breathing etc). Crypto is not a swift killer, so you have plenty of time to prepare for treatment if confirmed.

only treatment would be to take the fish out, (catch them if i can!) and keep the display empty for 72 days, right? all invertebrates can stay in the display in the 72 days.

 

[Cujo13]

It has been 3 days are the spots gone?

 

[avandss]

both still present. but a little faded

 

[Cujo13]

My neon Goby was the ich magnet in my tank. One day he would be totaling covered, the next completely clean. It would reappear in about 2 1/2 weeks. Which in a way I think was a good thing because the ich was most likely not the kind that last 72 days. Hopefully for you with them slowly fading could be a good sign. My tank has been fallow for 75 days, they have been through TTM and now observing them to make sure everything is good. The time has given me the opportunity to dive into diseases and honestly it has become very interesting to learn. With a Degree in Bio-medical Sciences and a minor in Chemistry I find it interesting. Granted I would rather not go through it again but my DT looks awesome now due to re-landscaping and tweaking and I am prepared for the future. You are definitely on the right forum. Hang in there. I just assume now that everything, even from Divers Den, has the potential to have any disease. To be honest, it gives me something to look forward to...the fish back into the DT and to head into the basement with my morning cup of coffee and watch the healthy happy fish going through their sunrise rituals. Just my opinion. Good luck.

By the way... nice Northern Pike, have a 40 incher on the wall that I got many years ago when the head had hair and the beard was not gray.

 

[avandss]

Thank you kujo! i am still hoping this is not ich, i had a fellow reefer here today, and he is convinced it is not ich as it is only 2 spots on one fish and its the same side, we examined all the other fish and nothing, spot clean

also he is not showing any symptoms

as for this forum being a pool of knowledge, you are absolutely right, i probably would not of ventured in reefing had it not been for this site.

also that is why i support, and donate every year.

 

[avandss]

quick update, spot is still there but much smaller. harder to spot

also no other fish are showing any spots.

 

[Dmorty217]

quick update, spot is still there but much smaller. harder to spot

also no other fish are showing any spots.

If it was indeed ich I would assume your anthias would be covered in white spots. Clownfish are much more hardy and disease resistant than most fish, at least when it comes to ich. Brook is a different story