How long before you see results from hyposalinity treatment?

deputydog95

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It took me a few days to bring the tank down to 1.010 from 1.025. Only being able to make 45 gallons every 10 hours or so made this a somewhat slow process. During that period I have lost numerous fish. I still have a blonde male naso and an emperor angel hanging on.

I checked the angel out this morning and he still appears to have the parasites on him. He is still breathing heavy as well. What gives? I am running a pretty heavy duty UV as well. I slowed it down some last night to insure a good kill rate. I thought hyposalinty was supposed to relieve the stress on the fish and knock these little buggers off....

Can you go any lower than 1.010 or is that pushing it? I'm trying to do anything I can to salvage these two fish and the remaining smaller fish in there if possible.

I tried about $160 worth of kick ich. All that did was kill all my inverts.
 
Re: How long before you see results from hyposalinity treatment?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10536224#post10536224 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by deputydog95
It took me a few days to bring the tank down to 1.010 from 1.025. Only being able to make 45 gallons every 10 hours or so made this a somewhat slow process. During that period I have lost numerous fish. I still have a blonde male naso and an emperor angel hanging on.

I checked the angel out this morning and he still appears to have the parasites on him. He is still breathing heavy as well. What gives? I am running a pretty heavy duty UV as well. I slowed it down some last night to insure a good kill rate. I thought hyposalinty was supposed to relieve the stress on the fish and knock these little buggers off....

Can you go any lower than 1.010 or is that pushing it? I'm trying to do anything I can to salvage these two fish and the remaining smaller fish in there if possible.

I tried about $160 worth of kick ich. All that did was kill all my inverts.
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Are you sure the salinity is at 1.009 ?
Use refractometer and be sure is calibrated correctly.
If the salinity is correct you should see the fish start to look better is all depends from the water temp four days to almost a month if the temp is low so be sure you keep the temp at 80F for speedy recovery.
 
Right now the salinity is 1.010. I am using a calibrated refractometer.

Why do you recommend the higher temp? Right now the tank is at around 76-77. Should I raise the temp? I thought the lower temp raised the oxygen content in the water, taking more stress off the fish?

The salinity is down for sure as I lost my last, and my favorite invert tonight. A very large blood shrimp. I wanted to get him out before this started but he was help up underneath a bunch of rock. When he finally came out he wasn't looking good. I caught him and tried putting him in some higher salinity water but it was too late. The low salinity really wreaks havoc on the inverts.

How low can you safely take the salinity before it starts hurting the fish?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10539784#post10539784 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by deputydog95
Right now the salinity is 1.010. I am using a calibrated refractometer.

Why do you recommend the higher temp? Right now the tank is at around 76-77. Should I raise the temp? I thought the lower temp raised the oxygen content in the water, taking more stress off the fish?

The salinity is down for sure as I lost my last, and my favorite invert tonight. A very large blood shrimp. I wanted to get him out before this started but he was help up underneath a bunch of rock. When he finally came out he wasn't looking good. I caught him and tried putting him in some higher salinity water but it was too late. The low salinity really wreaks havoc on the inverts.

How low can you safely take the salinity before it starts hurting the fish?
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I don't know what you doing my friend you should have no inverts , corals live rock in the tank when you do hyposalinity to treat for Ick .
The higher temp will speed up the Ick parasites so they can fall off the fish and reproduce and be kill by the hyposalinity in your tank.
Good luck to you.
 
I didn't really have an an option. No corals anymore. Just FOWL. Kick Ich wiped out most of my inverts prior the hypo treatment, even though their label says otherwise. The last thing left was my blood shrimp and he was buried under the rocks.

Unfortunately I have around 200-250 pounds of live rock with no place to put it. I just had to drop it and hope for the best. I have some somewhat pricey fish in there.

Will the hypo treatment kill the live rock as well? I didn't figure it would have much of an effect on the rock's bacteria. I know any pods, etc. that were on there are gone now. Probably got wiped out with the Kick Ich anyway :(
 
Your LR will have quite a bit of die off and your amm levels will spike, this is more than likely why your fish died, not from the ick. In .009 i have never seen ick for more than 3-4 days. If its still there in another few days i'd say something is wrong with the sg, its not ick or you have the rare form of ick that can survive in very low sg......tht would be bad, as copper is the only thing tht would work, and you sure as heck can't do that with all your LR
 
I initially had my inverts die off due to the Kick Ich. Long before I started the hypo.

I then had the fish die off prior to the Hypo treatment. I didn't even consider the hypo treatment till some of my fish started dropping like flies.

I have two protein skimmers running full blast. Hopefully that will offset the live rock die off.
 
according to the directions i got from a website, hypo is supposed to kill:

* Aiptaisia Anemones*
* Black Spot Disease* (Black Ich/Tang Disease)
* Brooklynellosis* (Saltwater Ich/Clownfish Disease)
* Corals
* Cryptocaryon* (Saltwater Ich/White Spot Disease)
* Non-Shelled Snails/Nudibranchs/Sea Slugs
* Oodinium* (Saltwater Ich/Velvet, Rust, Coral Fish Disease)
* Sea Anemones
* Sea Cucumbers
* Sea Urchins
* Soft Shelled Crustaceans
* Starfishes
* Tube Worms (Feather Dusters)
 
Here's a couple shots of the fish. It's really tough to photograph. Especially since I have new coralline growing on there an couldn't scrape it prior to the photos.

I lost my flame hawk today. I had had him forever. He was very bloated when I took him out. Strange...

The larger fish seem to be doing better ( knock on wood). The ich seems to be clearing off. I did notice that the pigment on the Angel looks all spotty. I can only assume that is from the ich damaging the scales. I hope it comes back. Most of the parasites appear to be gone.

The Naso looks better too. At least with regards to the ich problem. However, I noticed some white patchy spots on him. You can kind of see it in the photos. I'm not sure what this is. Maybe you guys can help.

Naturally, the two green chromis I have in there are alive and well. They act like nothing every happened. The price of the fish seems directly proportional to how hearty they are....

Here's the pics. Let me know what you think.

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Just checking back in. It's been around 2 weeks of hypo treatment.

I've had tremendous success. All the survivors are back to normal and eating like champs. The emperor and the Naso look as good as when I first brought them home. The fish actually really seem to like the lowered salinity. All their colors are bright and they're all very active.

I'm very pleased with the results. I did have quite a bit of death in my tank unfortunately. The kick ich killed most of my inverts and the hypo finished off the rest. There are a few small crabs hanging on, but that's about it. The ich also got four or five small fish.

Not to mention my coralline algae is waining and parts are starting to turn green.

Back to the drawing board I suppose.

What is a good system for getting the salinity back to normal? I am going to give it another week, for a total of three weeks of hypo to make sure all the ich is dead.

I know it needs to be a slow process or bring it back up. Any recommendations for how much at a time or for how long?
 
I will go minimum five weeks with hypo.
And i will take two weeks to bring the salinity back to normal you need to go very slow, i kill fish by going fast.
 
I'm doing the hypo treatment on my friend's tank as well. He didn't have a lot of rock, so I pulled it out, along with the crabs and snails and put them in a small tank. removed the sand and washed it. Dropped the salinity to 1.015. Will drop it the rest of the way as soon as my refractometer comes in. I did the math using a concentration formula so I should be close. Also ordered Kick Ich as it was recommended by another reefer. He's lost two angels and a Hippo Tang, down to 3 clowns. Also removed the bubble trap off the skimmer and the phosban reactor, cleaned up everything else and set his tank back up.
 
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