How long to grow frag into colonies?

Covey

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Well my 150G is starting to fill up but I only have one colony the rest are frags, and at that mostily small frags. Everything is going good. The tank is lit by 3x400W and is a heavly skimmed BB tank. Growth is good, colors are good, everything is happy. Like 90% or more of the coral are tank raised frags I am just wondering how long I will have to look at a field of nubs?

How long did it take for you to grow out your frags?
 
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It will definately take some time. Growth depends on stability of parameters. It may take a while depending on how big you want them to be.
 
A year should get you some nice sized colonies... And don't stare at them and they will grow faster! :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8358092#post8358092 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dirtyreefer
Mount them on their side, supposed to grow bigger, faster.

I agree 100%. In the long run it is MUCH better to lay a frag on it's side than standing up when mounting.
 
I have experienced 1/4" to 1/2 inch of growth per mo on some of my colonies.

Correct light saturation, + natural foods, + adequate calcium supplementation should give you nice growth.

8 hrs + mh seemed to do the best for me, the longer the lights were on the faster they grew.

For electrical reasons I only have my mh on for 8 hrs now... A temp of 80 gives you a little faster growth also.
 
IME, on average ...
After 1 year, they're cute little colonies. Often more branch tips [potential] than long branches.
After 2 years, it's a large colony, getting a unique shape. Fast growers start to cause space issues [or already have].
After 3 years [those that I've had] ... you've got a really nice large coral, for nearly all IME.

Just throwing it out there.
Personally, you've got a nice sounding setup. Figure where each seems to prefer, and let them sit there. The more you stay out of the tank, the less you adjust them, their lighting, their flow, their chemistry ... the better. Often said adjustments are `making the tank better' IME :lmao: or so I try to excuse them.
But I've had the most remarkable growth + most interesting shapes develop when the coral wasn't moved around the tank, stuff wasn't changed in it's circumstances.

Over time, most corals will require more flow as they grow, get branchy/dense. You don't have to beam frags with flow, moderate is fine at first ... just realize as the tank grows, you'll have to adjust flow, perhaps other things as well.

Give it time ... take pics along the way, and have the patience it takes. Despite whether amazing genetics, phenomenal color, or not ... some of the nicest reef tanks I've seen were dominated by a couple branching/plating sps-types that were given years, and space, to grow to their potential.

And once you've got a good thing going [if not well, well before] ... institute a QT practice. Take it from someone whose Montipora collection went from over a dozen large frags/small colonies to 4 frags of my favorite varieties I managed to save :(
Pests suck, QT. You've likely got a simple QT setup invested [if not many times over] in the corals in your tank ... consider it cheap insurance.
 
My tank is also mostly nubs but...

I read an article today on Garf about how they trigger the "grow to escape" response in their Acros. By pruning and starting with the right sized frags they claim that you can trigger a response in the Acro whereby it will grow very quickly.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8360169#post8360169 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MiddletonMark
IME, on average ...
After 1 year, they're cute little colonies. Often more branch tips [potential] than long branches.
After 2 years, it's a large colony, getting a unique shape. Fast growers start to cause space issues [or already have].
After 3 years [those that I've had] ... you've got a really nice large coral, for nearly all IME.

Just throwing it out there.
Personally, you've got a nice sounding setup. Figure where each seems to prefer, and let them sit there. The more you stay out of the tank, the less you adjust them, their lighting, their flow, their chemistry ... the better. Often said adjustments are `making the tank better' IME :lmao: or so I try to excuse them.
But I've had the most remarkable growth + most interesting shapes develop when the coral wasn't moved around the tank, stuff wasn't changed in it's circumstances.

Over time, most corals will require more flow as they grow, get branchy/dense. You don't have to beam frags with flow, moderate is fine at first ... just realize as the tank grows, you'll have to adjust flow, perhaps other things as well.

Give it time ... take pics along the way, and have the patience it takes. Despite whether amazing genetics, phenomenal color, or not ... some of the nicest reef tanks I've seen were dominated by a couple branching/plating sps-types that were given years, and space, to grow to their potential.

And once you've got a good thing going [if not well, well before] ... institute a QT practice. Take it from someone whose Montipora collection went from over a dozen large frags/small colonies to 4 frags of my favorite varieties I managed to save :(
Pests suck, QT. You've likely got a simple QT setup invested [if not many times over] in the corals in your tank ... consider it cheap insurance.

Yeah that sounds about right! I've had my new reef up about 14 mos now and thats exactly where I'm at :thumbsup:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8360584#post8360584 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Frankysreef
I wouldnt believe anything on that website...

I would... :D

The escape size theory make sense and anyone who has fragged a lot of SPS will have seen it over and over...

To answer Covey's original question, it will depend on the coral and the conditions. Even with outstanding conditions, some SPS coral grow very slowly where others will grow rapidly. I had 3 montipora undata in my tank that all grew at different rates under the same conditions.

Thanks,

Scott
 
Well, we'll find out about 'escape.' My fastest growing acro aculeus lost a branch [gasp] during a tank-cleaning. I've mounted it. Both frag and colony are fully extended and going great guns only 24 hours after the break, so I'm sort of interested in the theory that corals will respond with a growth spurt.
 
I agree w/middleton mark. I bought a tenius frag in may of 05... it was one of my first. it didnt do much and I moved it to my current 200 gal in september of 05. beginning the first quarter of 06 it took off and now it seems to grow an inch a month. Ive fragged it twice in the last month just to keep it from touching other corals. I would say its gone from 2" to 6" since january or february to now
 
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I think it is tough to compare the growth rate of any coral. Although a coral is growing, impossible to answer "what if better/more/less - light, flow, Alk,CA, etc.... would it have doubled, tripled?

I bought two 2 orange montipora caps about a year ago from different colonies. Each were the size of a thumbnail. They sat nearly side by side in the tank until last month. One was nearly 5" across the other about 1/2 that. In this case, I do not think any parameter within my system lead to these results.

If the results of a particular coral are not as you hoped or heard they would be, do not beat yourself up too much, may have just been a result of lesser "genes".
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8357555#post8357555 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by blide
A year should get you some nice sized colonies... And don't stare at them and they will grow faster! :)

definate tea-kettle effect. I find that when I go on vacation or out of town they grow like crazy ;)
 
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