How many t5's for mh supplimentation

hawk66

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I need to increase actinic supplimentation for 10k 4x400mh. Currently only have 2x96pc's that I will be getting rid of. Will 4x54w Icecap retro fit be enough? How many t5's is typical for actinic supplimentation.?

Is it true that VHO's are a better choice than t5's for actinics? if so why.
 
Are you looking to shift the color of the tank, or just provide actinic to get your corals to floresce more? Honestly I don't think a 4x54w T5 setup is going to be enough to shift the color of 4x400w halides, but it will make the colors pop more.

I still think VHO actinics (URI Super actinic) is the top dog, but to be honest I haven't see the T5 version used with halides yet.
 
I suggest a ratio of 1 wattT5 for every 2 watts halide. This assumes the halides are 10,000K, and the T5s are a 50/50 mix of actinic and blue bulbs. You can get away w/o the actinics though, and use only the blue bulbs, as technically 10,000Ks have loads of actinic (its the blue they lack), and so you could use a ratio of only 1 watt T5s to every 3 or 4 watts halide if you only use blue+/blue bulbs.

I prefer T5s for supplimenting because of the blue bulbs (they peak at 450nm rather than 420nm like a purple/actinic bulb). 10,000Ks already have loads of actinic in their spectrum... any more is for your viewing pleasure, not the corals really. 10,000Ks have more actinic than 20,000Ks even... you just dont see it because of all the warmer colors. What 10,000K halides need is a good blue spike to simulate deeper waters... not purple/actinic. As it turns out, the blue bulbs are much brighter than the actinics as well, and so I consider them an integral part of an reef that is considering supplimental lighting, more so than an actinic.

Thats why I like T5s better than VHOs. Watt for Watt, the actinic T5s will outdo a VHO... the 'other' opinion comes from people who stack a 54wattT5 up against a 110w VHO... they might be both 4', but two rows of T5s is a better comparison.

For 4x400s, I would consider 4x54 a bare minimum and only if you were to run all blue+ bulbs... and with halides that were slightly tinted... like ushio 14,000Ks or hamilton 14,000Ks... not 10,000Ks for instance.

Going for the ideal of 2:1 would place you at something like 14 T5 bulbs, for about 756 watts. You could get away with only 8x54, but then blue+ bulbs should be in the majority, if not only T5 bulb used.

It all depends though on a couple things... what halide bulbs are we 'supplimenting' exactly? And what are the Tank's dimensions?
 
Thanks for the replies. I'm looking to get the corals colour to pop more. The tank is 96"x30"x30" The mh bulbs are XM 10k. I've tried Xm 20k but found them too dim.
 
hawk have you considered changing 2 of your 10K MH tubes to 14 K? That should shift your spectrum toward the blue without need to supplement with T5s. I'm not sure that you're going to get what you want with T5 Actinics. Check with reefgeek.com.
 
Ti, so 2x54wattT5s are duller than a 110wattVHO (but 4' and about the same wattage)? My PAR meter doesnt think so...

Remember, stacking VHO actinics against T5 actinics is only fair if you match the wattages... and then the T5s have the advantage of the better reflectors.
 
I'm not talking about Par.
I'm talking about flouresence

Thanks for the replies. I'm looking to get the corals colour to pop more.
He talked about getting pop in colors, not par.
 
Everyone likes their lighting differently.
Grim likes the VHO actinic more too for pop.
 
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