How to get them to host in Frogspawn....

[FishboyBT]

I just got a forgspanw and was wondering how to get them to use it as a host.

Also I have had a pair of Ocelleris Clown who have been together scince they were very small. I moved them to my tank from downstairs in hoping the would spawn. That was in February. The female used to get fat with eggs but then reabsorb them.
How can I encourage them to spawn?

 

[elegance coral]

Please don't allow your clowns to use your coral as a host. This is very bad for the coral.

 

[cato]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9976663#post9976663 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
Please don't allow your clowns to use your coral as a host. This is very bad for the coral.

Really??? I don't think so. Both my paired percs and my coral are thriving. This pic is early am so polyps aren't extended. I don't know where you heard that but in my case that is not true even the slightest. I actually wish it would slow the growth of this coral...outta control!!!

 

[cato]

Re: How to get them to host in Frogspawn....

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9976528#post9976528 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FishboyBT
I just got a forgspanw and was wondering how to get them to use it as a host.

Also I have had a pair of Ocelleris Clown who have been together scince they were very small. I moved them to my tank from downstairs in hoping the would spawn. That was in February. The female used to get fat with eggs but then reabsorb them.
How can I encourage them to spawn?

Give it time they'll find it. It can take a couple weeks.

 

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9976783#post9976783 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chirocato
Really??? I don't think so. Both my paired percs and my coral are thriving. This pic is early am so polyps aren't extended. I don't know where you heard that but in my case that is not true even the slightest. I actually wish it would slow the growth of this coral...outta control!!!

I don't see how you can try to prove a point like yours with that pic. The pic proves my point. That does not look like a happy hammer to me. I didn't hear this from anyone. I have learned it from my own experiences. I have been keeping LPS's for a very long time. They are not natural hosts. They did not evolve with fish swimming through thier tentacles all day. They will contract (like yours) and not be able to recieve the light they need or to feed. There will be a very slow decline untill the coral gets so week that it falls victum of an infection or simply dies. This is a bad practice that continues because people don't know any better. I was very nice and polite to FishboyBT in the hopes that he would listen to what I had to say and save his coral.

Some clowns don't stay in thier host as much as others. Some clowns hardly ever leave thier host while others swim all around the tank and only stop by the host every few minutes or so. The impact that a clown has on a lps veries with the individual, but it is never a benifit to the coral.

 

[cato]

OK if u say so. Oh and did you MISS where I said this pic was taken at 5 freaken am with no lights on all night? Oh wait I didn't say that. I only said EARLY am! My BAD!

 

[FishboyBT]

Ok. I'll leave the clowns to do what they want.

 

[nick18tjetta]

I love how people can take one example of an exception that just happened to work out and think it is good for everyone. It is not usually good for LPS to have clowns using them as a host.

 

[cato]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9977471#post9977471 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nick18tjetta
I love how people can take one example of an exception that just happened to work out and think it is good for everyone. It is not usually good for LPS to have clowns using them as a host.

Maybe my situation is an exception. This is the problem with typeset. You can't translate tone. I, in no way meant my original post to be offensive or condescending which I think it was read as. I directly stated "in my case". This hammer had about 10 heads originally roughly 6 months ago. It now has 25+. I have yet to read anywhere that it is detrimental to the coral for clowns to host it. But I have observed it many different times with seemingly no ill effect to either. If there are links please fwd them. I'd like to educate myself further with this. Thank you.

 

[jerryz]

I have a pair of clowns hosting in an LTA but I also have an a pair that host in a very large open brain. In fact (I have tried to get them to host other places but the brain seems to be thriving. I have a theory about it. The clowns bring extra bits of food to the brain. Just like they would an anenome. The brain eats up the attention. Now if the lobo was smaller when this started it probably would have been a disaster but being large to start with the extra food outweighs the irritation of the pair hosting in him.

jerry

 

[MarinaP]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9976663#post9976663 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
Please don't allow your clowns to use your coral as a host. This is very bad for the coral.

Ditto

 

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9977116#post9977116 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chirocato
OK if u say so. Oh and did you MISS where I said this pic was taken at 5 freaken am with no lights on all night? Oh wait I didn't say that. I only said EARLY am! My BAD!

So instead of rolling your eyes and making smart little comments, why not try and prove me wrong by taking a pic of this beautiful well expanded coral today in the middle of the day and posting it here. It would be nice to see how the tissue hasn't recieded from the skeleton and all the growth in the past 2 months.

 

[ArgonDreams]

So instead of rolling your eyes and making smart little comments, why not try and prove me wrong by taking a pic of this beautiful well expanded coral today in the middle of the day and posting it here.

Physician heal thyself.

Anyway.. LPS can accept hosting clownfish. However it's by no means certain. Watch the affected LPS and see how it does, if it starts to shrink or retract in growth, I would cardon it off from the clownfish to encourage them to seek alternative hosting, a good method are strawberry baskets or even eggcrate. There are several types of corals that will accept clowns as hosting. Some of them CAN be although it's NEVER EVER certain:

Mushrooms (Avoid Elephant Ears)
Leathers and Colt Corals (Caution)
Elegance Corals (Mild Caution)
Frogspawn Hammers and Anchors (Caution)


As with anything, watch the coral, they are not the natural host. They can and do react negatively. However they can and do thrive as well.

Finally, nothing you see on this board or this thread is gospel, there are many roads to the same exactly place, don't be confused by it, take it all with a grain of salt... or a roll of the eye if you will.

 

[rusty-nail-z]

http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109479&highlight=guests+arrived

 

[cato]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9979047#post9979047 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
So instead of rolling your eyes and making smart little comments, why not try and prove me wrong by taking a pic of this beautiful well expanded coral today in the middle of the day and posting it here. It would be nice to see how the tissue hasn't recieded from the skeleton and all the growth in the past 2 months.

 

[Cutiewitbooty]

nice lol

 

[Raibaru]

My clowns have been in my torch since about as soon as I got them and until recently had no problems. The problems I'm having now are not due to the clowns.

The way I see it, it won't matter if you have an anemone or not. The clowns will host what they want and there is nothing you can do to stop it. The coral will adapt to the clowns going through it and may shut down for a week, but will eventually just go back to business as usual.

I'm a novice so I don't have the experience as others, but i've seen tons of pics and heard from tons of people that their clowns host their corals and haven't heard even once where they killed the coral or did any real harm to it.

Especially Oscellaris who aren't rough with their hosts by any means.

I'm not sure how you encourage a fish to do anything really. If they want the frog, they'll go for it.

 

[ArgonDreams]

Especially Oscellaris who aren't rough with their hosts by any means

There is no real evidence of this. It's more individual to the fish you have. There have been some reports that Maroons/Tomato are rougher at times, however this is very hard to quantify as what is "hard".

In general it's always best to watch the Clowns and see how they affect the coral. If it's retracting or starting die off after a while, it's best to cordon it off and encourage the clowns to go elsewhere. There are alternatives to corals/anemones that are usually rejected out of hand for asetetic reasons

 

[dc]

Well I don't hardly have any corals left because of my Maroon. Some corals take a lot longer to die than others. The only thing that is thriving is hairy mushrooms, but they're taking over my tank now, and ugly. She can't seem to get into the cabbage coral either. I know she spent 2 weeks trying to adjust to my colt coral. I thought she would die first. Eventually she wore it down to nothing.

 

[Jovreefer]

My clowns host a frogspawn, I've seen many people with frogspawn hosts. My frogspawn does not seem to mind so I'm happy to watch them.

One of my clowns did host a Acan Hillie for a while but it almost killed the acan so I had to give it away. Its now back to full color & healthy. I dont think this is something you can control, the clowns will host what they want... if it bothers the coral you'l have 2 choices, get rid of it or watch it die. If it does not bother it horray