How to QT when ich is in display

[Potatohead]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I can't find much by searching.

I am pretty sure I have ich in my display, I see it from time to time, although certainly not a plague to this point. Unfortunately in my situation taking all the fish out and leaving the tank fallow for ten weeks is just not a feasible option.

I would like to add two more fish to the display at some point... Some kind of hawkfish, and a Kole Tang. My question is, when I QT these fish, how would you go about it? I would assume a couple rounds of PraziPro still makes sense, but would you still do a copper/Cupramine treatment in QT in this situation?

Thanks for any help.

 

[farfromsea]

I am fairly certain ich treatments don't make fish immune to ich so even if you treat them in QT they will still be susceptible to getting it in the DT after you transfer them. I would guess the only thing you can do is get them eating and in the best health but IMO is just a gamble and matter of time until they possibly get infected.... but I guess if I were you I would do TTM in order to reduce the addition of parasites to the tank because: why not?


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[Potatohead]

No, I'm sure they are not immune. I agree with you in that I want them healthy and eating when they go into the DT, which is why I'm wondering if doing a Cupramine treatment for 2 - 3 weeks is even worth it, because I know it can be hard on the fish. I don't know if a few rounds of Prazi, then a few days of observation and then a transfer is a better idea or not.

 

[ThRoewer]

I have the same situation. I quarantine new fish for the infected system with water taken from that system. If the fish actually get ich in quarantine I treat them with hyposalinity.
From my observations, the fish that got really sick in QT were later fully immune and never showed any symptoms again. Same with the fish that never got sick in the first place.

In my experience fish can live with ich just fine as long as they are otherwise healthy, well fed and not under constant stress.

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[scooter31707]

I'm a little confused about your statement. Are you treating in the DT or QT. Do not use cooper in the DT, it will kill everything. IMO, don't treat Prazi-Pro unless you are sure they have flukes.

 

[Brieninsac]

If you have Ich you can pretty much expect your Tang will contract it when introduced to the DT.

 

[Potatohead]

I have the same situation. I quarantine new fish for the infected system with water taken from that system. If the fish actually get ich in quarantine I treat them with hyposalinity.
From my observations, the fish that got really sick in QT were later fully immune and never showed any symptoms again. Same with the fish that never got sick in the first place.

In my experience fish can live with ich just fine as long as they are otherwise healthy, well fed and not under constant stress.

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That makes sense. What I would likely do is use half water from the DT, and half new water. I am thinking it makes sense to dose Prazi as a preventative because it's not too hard on the fish, only takes 7 - 10 days for a couple treatments, and you can use Prime with it if ammonia climbs a bit. My question is more about preventative Cupramine treatment on top of that if the fish shows no signs. Obviously if the fish develops ich in QT, Cupramine treatment would be needed.

How long do you leave them in QT to see if ich shows up?

I'm a little confused about your statement. Are you treating in the DT or QT. Do not use cooper in the DT, it will kill everything. IMO, don't treat Prazi-Pro unless you are sure they have flukes.

No, all treatment would be in QT tank of course.

If you have Ich you can pretty much expect your Tang will contract it when introduced to the DT.

Well, that's the unfortunate reality, but I can't be the only person with this problem. I am wondering if treating a fish with Cupramine as a preventative measure is even worth doing in this case because the fish is going to be exposed when added to the DT anyway. Basically, will a treated fish have a better chance of survival versus a non-treated fish that shows no visible signs of ich while in QT.

 

[Brieninsac]

Well, that's the unfortunate reality, but I can't be the only person with this problem. I am wondering if treating a fish with Cupramine as a preventative measure is even worth doing in this case because the fish is going to be exposed when added to the DT anyway. Basically, will a treated fish have a better chance of survival versus a non-treated fish that shows no visible signs of ich while in QT.

I would say the majority of the time I read a thread about Ich it always includes a new Tang. I'm sorry, but they seem to be a disease magnet. Even a Kole Tang I put through quarantine infected my clean tank within days. I lost several fish and placed the survivors into QT's. Not to mention the hassle of completely breaking down my tank to catch all the fish. My fallow period will be up soon and I'm looking forward to getting everyone back.

Will treating a fish first and then putting him into your DT give you a better chance of survival, no. I've read and seen all the stories about living with Ich. But I really don't think that's possible. Well unless you want to constantly be replacing fish.

Do yourself a favor, suck it up, put the fish into a QT and start your fallow period. It's really your only choice.