Hyposalinity - 1.008-1.011?

[Dmorty217]

Did you even bother to read the quoted Advanced Aquaria article with all of the cited research?

Nope sure didn't... I don't use it so I don't care. You're relatively new here so we will cut you a break... 1.009 is the answer to your question FYI

 

[mikeatjac]

Nope sure didn't... I don't use it so I don't care. You're relatively new here so we will cut you a break... 1.009 is the answer to your question FYI

That is the best response I have heard in years!!!!

 

[Salty150]

That is the best response I have heard in years!!!!

Not worth it...

 

[mikeatjac]

Na... someone commenting on something they never read, and never do, happens on here all the time.

What is funny is someone commenting negatively on a product and when asked to show a picture of it to prove they actually own the product - then states that they don't own the product a "friend" does... now that is funny... :spin3:

That is for another thread but I did have questions for the new product as you should with a controller. So when my friend said he was getting one I jumped at the chance to check it out. While you sit on your royal know it all chair have never inspected one. You my friend with your righteous attitude is not good for the hobby.

 

[Salty150]

That is for another thread but I did have questions for the new product as you should with a controller. So when my friend said he was getting one I jumped at the chance to check it out. While you sit on your royal know it all chair have never inspected one. You my friend with your righteous attitude is not good for the hobby.

No, what is not good for the hobby is people running down products they claim to own - but really do not.

Misleading negative product "reviews" only hurt this hobby.

My friend...

But anyway, back to my original question regarding hypo - before your post adding nothing to it...

 

[mikeatjac]

I played with one and you DID NOT. Stop ruining all these threads and grow up.

 

[Salty150]

I played with one and you DID NOT. Stop ruining all these threads and grow up.

Like I said, your comment was just posted to start trouble - it added nothing to the thread.

Now please get back to the topic of the thread - hypo.

Thanks!

 

[mikeatjac]

Ok so the answer is 1.009. Do you realize how hard it is to be sure you have the measurement correct? Now since I have a tank full of large SPS there is no way I can pull the fish or lower my SG to 1.009. So my answer is I don't allow anything in my tank until I am sure it is free of any parasite. if I did have an issue and I could catch the fish, I would pull them out and treat them in a separate tank.

The article referenced in this thread is old, I have a closet full of worthless additives, equipment and advice that I no longer use.

 

[Salty150]

Ok so the answer is 1.009. Do you realize how hard it is to be sure you have the measurement correct? Now since I have a tank full of large SPS there is no way I can pull the fish or lower my SG to 1.009. So my answer is I don't allow anything in my tank until I am sure it is free of any parasite. if I did have an issue and I could catch the fish, I would pull them out and treat them in a separate tank.

The article referenced in this thread is old, I have a closet full of worthless additives, equipment and advice that I no longer use.

The article was written in 2006 - it is 10 years old.

Do you have any articles backed up by cited research (like the one posted) that contradicts the posted article?

 

[mikeatjac]

10 years is a long time. Drink coffee, don't drink coffee, ok drink coffee and eggs are ok now. The iPhone did not exist.

My issue is not just snake oil but the these Scientific essays you referenced. In a lab things are different.

First my issue is getting a good calibration of 1.009. Does not work above and deadly below. Not even sure that it works anymore at 1.009 anymore. I also believe this is very stressful.

My second issue is you still have to pull all the fish so why not use copper in a second tank. That is if you can pull the fish out.

IMO healthy fish are less likely to get parasites. I feed the crap out of my fish.

So I probably read your article in 2006 but I would not read it in today.

 

[Salty150]

10 years is a long time. Drink coffee, don't drink coffee, ok drink coffee and eggs are ok now. The iPhone did not exist.

My issue is not just snake oil but the these Scientific essays you referenced. In a lab things are different.

First my issue is getting a good calibration of 1.009. Does not work above and deadly below. Not even sure that it works anymore at 1.009 anymore. I also believe this is very stressful.

My second issue is you still have to pull all the fish so why not use copper in a second tank. That is if you can pull the fish out.

IMO healthy fish are less likely to get parasites. I feed the crap out of my fish.

So I probably read your article in 2006 but I would not read it in today.

So I take it your answer to my question of:

Do you have any [newer] articles backed up by cited research (like the one posted) that contradicts the posted article?

Is no...

 

[mikeatjac]

Right I don't but the article reads like only have a heart attack at the hospital. Hitting 1.009 on the nail is not as easy as one thinks. I do believe that it is stressful and I am not sure it works. There is a lot of good information in the threads dedicated to this subject which by the way is current and practical.

 

[Neptune 555]

A few suggestions to reduce stress when doing TTM. Honestly my fish are not even breathing heavy when I conduct TTM in this way.

Reduce Stress w/ TTM
* I do it early in the morning when the lights are still out and my fish are asleep (Yes I have read early in the morning is not a criteria for TTM but I like it b/c it reduces stress)
* I siphon the water out of the tank while the fish are sleeping and leave only the tiniest amount of water in the tank. Then I use my hand w/ a collander to catch the fish. It happens so fast.. they don't fight me at all.
* The tank they are going into is set up and matches the water parameters exactly. Drop them in.. and they are totally fine.
No Stress

Neptune