Hello all. Have a 75 gallon tank. Cycled and had cleanup crew. All was well. Had 2 small clowns less then 1 inch each and a royal gramma. Just over 4 weeks in a 20 gallon qt I set up with no issue. everyone eat. Everything was good. I did not treat for anything as I didn't see any issues with fish. Fish went into main and everything was good. The following week 3 corals were added. Corals look good. About a week after corals all 3 fish show signs of ich. They all have little white spots. So maybe the fish had ich in qt but never saw any signs of it. Or one of the corals had it on it and introduce it to my main. So need some help. My plan is to put all 3 fish back in qt. I plan on using copper. Leave the the main for 72-75 days fish less. I do have corals and cleanup crews. I assume they are fine and the ich will eventually die. I guess I won't be adding any corals in the future....
I got ich and I qt
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Seen a product called revive. Is that any good? What do you for live rock? Same? I can't qt corals. Don't have a light in qt. do you qt rocks, corals??? Will revive kill ich and and all,possible parasites?
gone fishin
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Revive will not do anything for encycted ich on a coral or plug. FWIW I like to use coral RX.
It is hard to say if the fish had ich or not. Ich often likes to hide in the gills of fish where it is hard to see. I Would suggest looking into tank transfer method(TTM) instead of copper. There is a sticky above the big red arrow on TTM. Good luck just my 2 cents.
It is hard to say if the fish had ich or not. Ich often likes to hide in the gills of fish where it is hard to see. I Would suggest looking into tank transfer method(TTM) instead of copper. There is a sticky above the big red arrow on TTM. Good luck just my 2 cents.
Well I was hoping to use cooper to treat ich and any other nasty that can be hiding. Does coral rx kill ich that maybe be hitching a ride???
SeaTila
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When you add coral to your tank I would use the coral rx dip and rinse with clean saltwater before transferring. The ich may be in the water. The old method of floating the bag and allowing the lfs bag water to mix with your water is not a good idea. Instead you can get a bucket for coral rx dip, dip after pulling from bag, rinse with saltwater and move to QT. Anything new to QT water may carry ich and expose the fish in QT. Also stress of fish can lower resistance in fish. Moving to DT should be drip acclimation and as little transfer of QT water as possible. Moving fish to any tank is stress especially to DT with semi-aggressive or larger fish. I had a saltwater tank in 90s and got ich...it's horrible. I know we didn't drip acclimate then and tended to get ich from lfs water transferred from the floating bag or already infected fish we didnt know had it. By using a QT and drip acclimation, dipping and rinsing coral and making an effort to not get lfs water into your tanks, you may be able to avoid ich etc. The healthier and stress free the fish are the more they can fight off ich and other issues. I soak seaweed in selco before putting in tank, a varied flake diet with vitamins and probiotics and some frozen variety soaked in selco. The less a fish is bullied and eats healthy the better its chances at survival against disease.
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gone fishin
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to my knowledge none of the coral dips anything for any fish related illnesses. If your set on doing the copper route then make sure you read up on doing it properly. Copper is basically a poison to little and not long enough will not get rid of ich and to much will kill the fish. Also the level must be maintained to kill the ich in its free swimming stage, think of your top off water needing medicated to maintain the level.
A word of caution be wary of using any ammonia "neutralizing" products such as prime with copper it will make a toxic cocktail and kill your fish.
MondoBongo
Obligate Feeder Obsessed
rather than using copper you might consider doing Tank Transfer Method (TTM) to rid your fish of ich, followed by an observation period and fallow period in the display.
with two small clownfish, you might even be able to get away with doing their transfers in 5 gallon buckets.
this way you can use ammonia locker products to help keep your water quality high (since you don't run copper in this scenario).
with two small clownfish, you might even be able to get away with doing their transfers in 5 gallon buckets.
this way you can use ammonia locker products to help keep your water quality high (since you don't run copper in this scenario).
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jnw240reef
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Coral needs qt as well. Or cut off plug so it's only live tissue.
Tank transfer if done properly is not stressful,
MondoBongo
Obligate Feeder Obsessed
no, no, and no.
garlic doesn't help anything with the immune systems of anyone or anything. this has been clearly debunked. in fact, it may actually harm marine fish over the long term.
TTM is not a very stressful endeavor. certainly not as stressful as copper treatments, or being disease ridden.
i have successfully and easily gotten some VERY delicate fish through TTM without any issues, eating and acting Bright Alert and Responsive the entire way through the protocol.
done correctly it induces minimal stress but provides very clear benefits.
But is excellent on steak. :twitch:
MondoBongo
Obligate Feeder Obsessed
or maybe on a nice piece of crusty italian bread with some butter!
now i've made myself hungry.
The reason behind copper was to kill ich and anything else that they may have. The ttm method seems a little labor intensive and means more tanks or buckets around. But reviewing options. Also. The main needs to be 72 days with no fish correct??? I have snails, crabs, and corals. The ich will eventually die with no host correct???
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