I lost Dagon, my O. scyllarus...Please read.

Uriel

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I awoke to find my larger O. scyllarus dead (OK, almost dead, he was still twitching). His filter's motor had burned out in the night, no water movement, plus the stress of him picking that day/night to molt...still unsure of the actual cause. His roomate was also dead, 'Fats', the domino damsel.

Thanks in advance for the condolences.

I guess that I will have less of a logistics issue with housing/filling my 2 mantis condos now.

I can't really express how sad I am, since he was definately my most interactive mantis, residing next to my computer (The others are all on shelves across the room), my mascot, really. My cat Perci's favorite mantis, as they would have staring contests. with the mantis finally giving defeat to the 'unbeatable' cat in this (mantis have 6 pupils...a bit of an advatage).
he was the Barry Bonds of mantis, with a streak in the sixties of crabs that never even hit bottom, whacking them out of the park, er, tank...


***Please Read***
On another note, I am going to express and/or reiterate something for new mantis owners, somethng that Dr. Roy has stated several times, regarding tank sizes. I see a lot of posts from people asking just how small a tank they can do for a mantis. Well, going nano is asking for trouble, should something go wrong, period. I kept Dagon in an Eclipse 12, on 'hold' for when I finally cycled the 30 for him that I was making space for... It seems that I was 'getting around to it' for far too long, and my little friend (friends, as the domino was very cool as well) paid the ultimate price. Was the burned out motor my fault/ No, not exactly. However, had I had a larger tank, with a powerhead, for instance (Which is a silly thought on an Eclipse 12), then things might have been different. I'm not sure exactly when they expired in the night, exactly why, but the fact is that the smaller the tank, the closer you have to watch things, and the harder they are to correct in an emergency.
Anyways, I'm off to build some stands for this fleet of unfilled mantis condos that I have, as i don't want any more of my stomatobuddies to go the same way. Thanks for reading this and giving some thought to your little friends.


-Ron
 
Im sorry for your loss ron. This is eactly why i waited an hunted for an acrylic 29 for my O.S., running both the Penguin 330 it came with, and a little rio powerhead, just in case.
 
Walter will now morn the loss of Dagon by doing the 21 snail salute!! RIP Dagon...sorry for you loss Ron!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7854593#post7854593 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Msby12
sorry to hear that! did you post a video of "dagon" on myspace?

Yep...it's still up there, actually.
 
Ron,

Sometimes the softer parts of a molt skin can get sucked into an impeller, cut off water flow and lead to the failure you experienced. Or the stars could have simply alliegned at the wrong time. Anyway, most unfortunate.

Your commentts about small systems were right on. I can and do keep 6 inch O. scyllarus in 2 gallon glass experimental aquaria with no problems. However, it is only for a day or two at most and with careful monitoring. I would not dream of maintaining an animal in such a system for months. The probability of a problem - and believe me I have experienced them all - is just too great with a small system. One buried moltskin, uneaten piece of shrimp, clogged water intake, temperature spike, or pump failure and it is over in a few hours.

Hopefully your experience draw attention to this point.

Roy
 
that's exactly why I want to put my mantis in the main tank and get rid of the nanocube - it's too easy for the cube to get out of balance. Plus when I do waterchanges, I have to change a much larger percentage of the nanocube's water - compared to the bigger tank with proper filtration and skimmer. It also results in less water available for the big tank
 
Well, it looks like my future set-ups will be as follows, once I work out the logistics of moving the smaller tanks, cycling the larger ones, etc...


29 gallon: Hydra, my other O. scyllarus, with his yellow damsel buddy. Low lights, very little other than perhaps a few hardier mushrooms that require lower lights, maybe some chaeto.

29 gallon: Glaurung, my G. platysoma in one 14.5 section, Baron Munchausen, my G. viridis in the other. Since both species are shallow tolerable, I am planning on lots of light, and soft corals.

25 gallon: Baba-Yaga, my G. ternatensis. If I can retro a better light into the tank, I will do some corals, as above.

55 gallon: 3 sections, Both P. cilata (Ares,Odin), as well as one G. chiraga (Freya).

I will probably move the smaller G. chiraga into a vacant 12 gallon and put her into another rom for now.


In a 'Light in the middle of Darkness' sort of thing...

I bought a couple of whisper pumps, for emergencies, just in case.

Returning home, and anticipating several days of removing aiptasia from rock, as well as scrubbing algae from the crashed tank, I saw several tiny little serpent stars, climbing up the walls of Dagon's tank, perhaps trying to escape the bad water? Anyways, I did a 2 gallon change, installed the filter and watched as they descended once again. I wasn't sure if anything was OK/still alive in there, but I also saw a few fire worms and one amphipod cruising around. So, I will continue to doctor up this tank, figure out how/when I want to transfer the sand and rock or maybe leave it setup as an emergency tank while I am transferring all of my other little dactyled monsters into more safe housing.

Thanks again for the well wishing,

-Ron
 
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