Ich again
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I would suggest a treatment of all new acquisitions with tank transfer method dosed with chloroquine. Also a quick cure dip. To help in eliminating brooklynella, velvet and ick. Do I have proof that it's 100% , NO. Will it work on all fish, maybe. I don't know how all fish would handle the treatments. There maybe some fish intolerant of one of the medications. Then the fish go into a QT system at least 3 months for observation. Sounds like a pain and extremely slow process but it sure beats what everyone is having to go thru. I also suggest a treatment time with prazipro and metronidazole. I hate FW dips but it can help to remove flukes. One more thing is that all other inverts go thru a similar QT procedure with coral dips and several tank transfers. Y'all are going to think i am nuts but I suspect all additions including algae. Anything that is at a fish store to me is suspect. The organism may not carry the offending pathogen but the water that comes with it sure might.
webslinger
Friendly Neighborhood
The Diatom D-1 Filter is extremely fast and will filter out particles as small as one micron (one
millionth of a meter). Therefore, it is a tremendous aid in the treatment and prevention of aquarium
diseases caused from microorganisms such as “Ick,” velvet, tail and fin rot, fungus, flukes, fish lice, etc.
Since almost all aquarium disease parasites are larger than one micron, they are easily entrapped by the
filter powders and thus eliminated from the aquarium.
millionth of a meter). Therefore, it is a tremendous aid in the treatment and prevention of aquarium
diseases caused from microorganisms such as “Ick,” velvet, tail and fin rot, fungus, flukes, fish lice, etc.
Since almost all aquarium disease parasites are larger than one micron, they are easily entrapped by the
filter powders and thus eliminated from the aquarium.
lespaul339
Reefer
I agree. If you want to eliminate ich and other parasites/diseases 100% from your system a strict quarantine regimen is mandatory. All it takes is one little drop of infected water to wipe out your whole tank.
Did it remain, or did you let it slip back in on the fish?
Giovanni
AKA Flippa
It remained. I removed every fish and placed them in QT #1 until treated with TTM. After treating them with TTM and place them in QT #2. All my fish (including a PBT and Achilles) were all in QT #2 together for a least 60 days without signs or symptoms of ich. Three weeks after reintroducing the fish to the DT, ich showed up on the PBT. Nothing new was added to the DT during fallow period or the 3 weeks following the fallow period until the ich show up again on my PBT.
I am a Nurse and work in surgery as a circulator and First assist to a heart surgeon. I am meticulous with sterility at work and when doing TTM. Cross contamination did not happen.
We must have new strains now because I have heard more success stories with fallow tanks than failures. In fact, I just chatted with Bob Fenner last week and he still approves of this practice.
I will be returning my fish back to the DT in December so I will be anxious about the outcome until then. The TTM went well, and I am very meticulous as well since I am a microbiology professor. I am still not understanding how cysts are lying dormant past 90 days . . . If that is the case, then we all would have dying infected fish, and then what is the point of being in this hobby?
I will be returning my fish back to the DT in December so I will be anxious about the outcome until then. The TTM went well, and I am very meticulous as well since I am a microbiology professor. I am still not understanding how cysts are lying dormant past 90 days . . . If that is the case, then we all would have dying infected fish, and then what is the point of being in this hobby?
tassod
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What did you end up doing after this?
I tend not to comment on "failures" of the fallow period because:
+ details of treatment of the fish are not provided in the case of not using TTM. There are many opportunities for not treating properly with chemicals (including CP, copper) or hypo. Among them are treatment period, proper measurement of SG, concentration of copper, etc.
+ details of what was added to the tank during the fallow period are not provided in detail
+ proximity to tanks with cryptocaryon irritans or other parasites are not provided and the aerosol effect is very real.
+ diagnosis of which parasite is operative is not always clear
In my opinion, with tank transfer done properly, and a clean tank without ich (with a fallow period of the longest known emergence of the infective stage of crypto which is 72 days), there is a very, very high success rate. On the other hand, "arguing" with folks here is not productive, especially as I am dealing with medical issues in my life for a while.
The treatment time using chemicals is normally twice the average life cycle of the parasite involved. That is considered the gold standard. However, the back end of the cryptocaryon irritans life cycle is so variable, that to insure eradication using chemicals, some people treat for 72 days. However chemicals are not good for the fish and TTM works well in 12 days so that would always be my choice.
deleau
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lespaul339
Reefer
I'm at the tail end of an ich treatment. My DT will be fallow for 111 days if all goes well with the fish I have in QT right now. After a failed attempt at hypo, I ran copper treatment for a month. Fish all look good now. Took them off copper two days ago. Completely drained and cleaned out the QT tank and all equipment with vinegar and used 100% new water. Going to keep them in QT for 4 more weeks of observation. If ich survives this I am going to be devastated. My last resort will be TTM. It's the only thing I haven't tried yet. I will probably also run copper with TTM if I end up having to do it.
Ich sucks!
Ich sucks!
I agree! Hopefully you will feel better soon, and I really appreciate your input. I will keep you all posted after my fallow period. The quarantine tank is in another room, and I'm going 12 weeks fallow.
And I certainly understand not wanting to argue, but it is good to get different input from you guys. I highly value what snorvich has to say!!
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