ICH? help plz
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scottwhitson
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No there are no reef safe Ich treatments. You have to remove the fish and treat them with hyposalinity or copper. If you only have inverts such as snails, crabs etc you could remove them and the use hypo in your main tank but you couldn't use copper because it would ruin your rock.
scottwhitson
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No you can leave your inverts alone but you have to leave the main tank fishless for a MINIMUM of 6 weeks, 10 weeks would be safer. Are you going to setup another tank or what is your plan?
L8ndeb
Registered Reef Keeper
+1 Need a pic. Doesn't sound like ick to me.
steelhead77
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Agreed. Are your clowns hosting in a coral? It could be coral or anemone stings that cause the white spots. It takes a bit for the clowns to become immune to stings when they first dive in to a host. Be patient and keep an eye on things. As long as the fish are otherwise healthy and eating and swimming normal, my guess is that the marks will be gone in a few days.
unclejed2
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Correction;
Kick-Ick, Rid-Ick and Marine-Max by tropical Science are all reef safe. I always recommend Marine-Max.
I just had ick on my coral beauty early lsat week. LFS recommended a freshwater dip or a product called Herbtana, which is reef safe. Members on here said to just watch it and feed him. I just fed and probably overfed last week and he is fine. No signs of ick at all. It cleared up in about 4-5 days by itself
steelhead77
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They may be reef safe, but they are also all ineffective.
Palting
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It did not clear. It just went deep and into the gills. Not only does your fish still have Ich, your whole tank has Ich. Here's the Cliff notes on Ich: http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/ichparasiticdiseases/ss/sbsichlifecycle.htm
Anyway, to the OP critofer, if you are still following your own thread, how about a pic or a better description since what you have may not be Ich?
etepperman
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Hi,
Most tanks have some ick in them. While not all do, most of us have at one time or another put a fish in the tank with ick. And once that is done it is very hard to eradicate it. Some ick can live up to 90 days in the dormant stage, and most of us just don't have the means to move all our fish out for such a long time. So we live with the ick in our tank.
In most cases ick is no big deal if the fish are health. I went 11 years with occasional ick in my tank popping up on a fish here and there, but feeding them well usually fixed the issue.
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I say USUALLY, because after 11 year it finally got the better of me, I added a new fish and boom, I had the biggest outbreak of ick I have ever had. Inside of 1 month, all my fish had died. I was very sad. I kept my tank empty for about 6 weeks, and I just started to add some new fish. So far the ick has not popped up again. I have also added a 2 week QT tank. I would highly recommend setting a small one up.
As for your current ick issue. Don't panic, watch the fish, if you can get it out into QT then do so. If you can not, then just keep feeding it well. If the fish is well adjusted and health than chances are it will clear up.
my 2 cents.
-E
Most tanks have some ick in them. While not all do, most of us have at one time or another put a fish in the tank with ick. And once that is done it is very hard to eradicate it. Some ick can live up to 90 days in the dormant stage, and most of us just don't have the means to move all our fish out for such a long time. So we live with the ick in our tank.
In most cases ick is no big deal if the fish are health. I went 11 years with occasional ick in my tank popping up on a fish here and there, but feeding them well usually fixed the issue.
<<< DON"T STOP - KEEP READING >>>
I say USUALLY, because after 11 year it finally got the better of me, I added a new fish and boom, I had the biggest outbreak of ick I have ever had. Inside of 1 month, all my fish had died. I was very sad. I kept my tank empty for about 6 weeks, and I just started to add some new fish. So far the ick has not popped up again. I have also added a 2 week QT tank. I would highly recommend setting a small one up.
As for your current ick issue. Don't panic, watch the fish, if you can get it out into QT then do so. If you can not, then just keep feeding it well. If the fish is well adjusted and health than chances are it will clear up.
my 2 cents.
-E
unclejed2
New member
False, to make a blanket statement is irresponsible.
jacklink
New member
I too have just had an outbreak after years of success. Lost 5 fish after my wife brought me home a "gift" flame angel... My 6 Line and maroon clown lost their spots and appear healthy for now but I know their not out of the woods. Does anyone have experience with using a UV sterilizer?
lordofthereef
One reef to rule them all
Well here is what is written about Marine-Max
"Marine-Max - Disease Prevention and Life Extension 16oz The best selling, copper free, pro-biotic saltwater disease prevention in the world! Marine-Max formulates 5 different strains of specially cultivated bacteria that protect against the full spectrum of common aquatic diseases -- all naturally! Marine-Max also contains a unique formulation of genetic RNA and DNA combined with 17 anti-oxidants to insure cellular strength and boost natural disease immunity."
Based on what the manufacturer itself says, this isn't any more a treatment for ich than vitamins are a treatment for human diseases...
And here I was excited to learn about a product I had never heard of!
steelhead77
New member
Really? Which one has ever PROVEN to be effective? IMHO, to claim that any of those will cure ich in a tank Is extremely irresponsible.
unclejed2
New member
As someone who has been into preventative health supplements and herbs for 35 years I can attest that in a vast array prevention through diet and supplementation works. Marine-Max is used by countless aquarists to insure the health of their fish, with overwhelming success.Well here is what is written about Marine-Max
"Marine-Max - Disease Prevention and Life Extension 16oz The best selling, copper free, pro-biotic saltwater disease prevention in the world! Marine-Max formulates 5 different strains of specially cultivated bacteria that protect against the full spectrum of common aquatic diseases -- all naturally! Marine-Max also contains a unique formulation of genetic RNA and DNA combined with 17 anti-oxidants to insure cellular strength and boost natural disease immunity."
Based on what the manufacturer itself says, this isn't any more a treatment for ich than vitamins are a treatment for human diseases...
And here I was excited to learn about a product I had never heard of!
Prove a sterilizer works or that a fuge will eliminate algae....I use Marine-Max and it works. I, like I said, suggest it, I would never make a blanket statement and say; "use Marine-Max, it works 100% of the time, guaranteed." That would be irresponsible of me. Many products are subjective to the particular aquarium they are being introduced into.
L8ndeb
Registered Reef Keeper
I gotta agree with steel. I don't believe that there is a miracle cure for ick. If there was, MANY aquarist would be all over it, as the majority have had to deal with it sometime in our aquariums.
From my reading and experiences, best measures are a QT, good stable water parameters, and healthy diet, and a healthy specimen to begin with. Things like Marine-Max, Kick-Ick, and Rid-Ick are a crap shoot at best. If you encounter an outbreak, either hyposalinty or copper (in a QT) have seemed to work the best.
From my reading and experiences, best measures are a QT, good stable water parameters, and healthy diet, and a healthy specimen to begin with. Things like Marine-Max, Kick-Ick, and Rid-Ick are a crap shoot at best. If you encounter an outbreak, either hyposalinty or copper (in a QT) have seemed to work the best.
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