Ich (no quarantine)?
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leeweber85
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That's too bad. My yellow tang got ick once after the addition of a royal gramma I bought from emporium 'bets'. I thought for sure he wouldn't make it as it was all over his body. I just kept up on water changes and made sure to soak all my food in garlic guard. It went away about 2 weeks later and I haven't had it since (That was 1.5 -2 years ago.)
I think I would wait a couple days and see if it gets worse, if it does you'll have to setup a QT, just use a rubbermade or an old tank with tank water, powerhead, and some sort of established biological filter (sponge filter, bio balls)
good luck
I think I would wait a couple days and see if it gets worse, if it does you'll have to setup a QT, just use a rubbermade or an old tank with tank water, powerhead, and some sort of established biological filter (sponge filter, bio balls)
good luck
ToTaLCHaoS13
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I tried it. Didn't work. Went with QT and Cupramine.
Atticus
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Ich going away on its own is extremely rare. It also does not truely go away, but the fish actually reach an equalibrium with the ich parasites. If your fish is not able to reach that equilibrium you only have a short period of time before they will be over come. Ich appears for 4 days, cysts hatch, Ich reappears 2 days later twice as bad, cysts hatch, Ich is 4 times worse and your fish is most likely doomed as the ich will have attached to gills and eyes.
Garlic has been shown to help boost immune response, but is not an effective treatment during an outbreak. It can still be used to increase fish strength, but do not rely on it as a cure.
The correct action is to get a tank up and running immeadiatly for quarantine of all fish. Use tank water, a heater set to 84 degrees, and multiple airstones. Every fish needs to be removed from the main display for 6 weeks and treated with cupramine (chleated copper). The copper levels has to be tested on a regular basis. Hyposalinity can also be an effective treatment, 1.009 for 2 weeks minimum. Mixing high temp., hyposalinity, and copper should only be attempted by experianced individuals. I suggest cupramine as it is very effective and not too bad to make sure it stays at a consistant level.
Garlic has been shown to help boost immune response, but is not an effective treatment during an outbreak. It can still be used to increase fish strength, but do not rely on it as a cure.
The correct action is to get a tank up and running immeadiatly for quarantine of all fish. Use tank water, a heater set to 84 degrees, and multiple airstones. Every fish needs to be removed from the main display for 6 weeks and treated with cupramine (chleated copper). The copper levels has to be tested on a regular basis. Hyposalinity can also be an effective treatment, 1.009 for 2 weeks minimum. Mixing high temp., hyposalinity, and copper should only be attempted by experianced individuals. I suggest cupramine as it is very effective and not too bad to make sure it stays at a consistant level.
tibbs2
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You can try garlic but it's not been proven by anyone to do anything except give your fish bad breath.
My tang shows signs of ich sometimes but it has always gone away on it's own. I just to try and provide stable tank parameters and a varied, healthy diet. My cleaner shrimp never touched my tang but it did like to be cleaned by cleaner gobies.
My tang shows signs of ich sometimes but it has always gone away on it's own. I just to try and provide stable tank parameters and a varied, healthy diet. My cleaner shrimp never touched my tang but it did like to be cleaned by cleaner gobies.
Atticus
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Another thing you will want to address is the cause of the ich outbreak. Are you in need of a water change, just did a water change, heater break, or any other tank parameter change dramatically recently? Add any new fish or notice new aggression between fish? You need to find the stressor that allowed the ich to appear.
annewayne
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The problem was my furnace went out , i woke up to about a 63 degrees house, this was at 3:00 am, the repair guy showed up at 8:30 am,the temp dropped to 54 degrees, this happened of course on the coldest day of the year last week(11 degrees). Anyway my tank temp varied 10 degrees, apparently 2 - 300 watt heaters can't keep up in the sump in my basement.I also threw a elec. space heater in there as well. I't was to big of a shift in temp. , 2 days later bam"ich" I've taken precautions since then i threw a heat lamp in there to help. With my halides on the tank reaches a maximum of 80.2 and the lowest it goes is 78.
Anyway ,everbody out there check your furnace and be prepared for no heat for 10 hours,if this happens .
Anyway ,everbody out there check your furnace and be prepared for no heat for 10 hours,if this happens .
Covey
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It wasn't directed at you. You've had a tank way longer than I have.
A mature tank with a happy fish. Unless to have a real easy way of netting it I think your better off leaving it in there. You didn't add anything new so the ick was already in the tank and the and it didn't effect the fish in the past. It's a risk either way I killed a fish ripping down my reef to net it out before so it is a risk either way.
A farely bare small QT with hypo and copper isn't a sure thing either. It will get the ick but the stress might kill some of the fish as well.
Like I said if it were me I would and a cleaner shrimp and keep the tank as steady and healthy as possible.
I got a coral beauty and didnt notice any signs until a day after i baught it and it was not eating so i got some garlic gaurd that helps in getting thier appitite up and in no time i noticed it was eating little bits at a time so i kept giving it to them at least three times a day for 2 1/2 weeks. Then i thaught just garlic gaurd isnt going to do it so i rushed out and baught a uv sterilizer. well to make a long story short it it eating constantly and no signs of reinfestations yet. so i hope this is the answer. cause i have no qt set at the moment and i have an invert witch i cant treat with copper.
annewayne
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Well the garlic guard i'm trying 2 a day soaked pellets,flake ,frozen you name it. I am picking a 30 gallon friday i hope for qt tank, my problem is if there was a 100% effective method for curing ich in the tank i would love to know it . The other problem i have is i have 250 lbs. of live rock in there and 20 species of coral that i don't particular want to mess with in order to get my 6 fish out of. Other than totalchoaos13 has anyone else tried the "NO SICK FISH TREATMENT"? I have looked on the other RC forums and there were no responses. Just curious if anyone had any luck.
