Ich outbreak pls help?

[jbird0420]

Well my 225g has a ich outbreak. Been treating it with Ich Attack for 2 days now, with lil results. I have assorted Tangs, Angels, Wrasses, Puffer, Foxface, and Flame Hawk. I kinda stuck between doing Hypo or treating w/ Copper. I do have a 55g QT tank already setup now, been setup for 3 months. I feeding twice a day with xtra garlic. Please help?
I heard Angels, tangs and most other fish have a hard time dealing with copper treatments?


I just checked my parameters
Ammonia 0
Nitrate 10
Nitrite. 25
ph 8.1

I plan on doing a 15% water change later, to lower that Nitrite. I hope this will pass, this is really bothering me..

 

[oniel21]

What caused the nitrite reading? I would perform hypo but a 55 may be too small for all those fish.

 

[jbird0420]

Possibly the 2x a day feedings and all the poop that comes out of those fish. I'm thinking about going down to once a day feeding.

 

[paulamrein]

How long has the tank been set up, and how long between each introduction of fish, how much live rock do you have in the tank. I ask because there should be not detectable Nitrite in your tank at all. It's been proven that Nitrite has very little effect on saltwater fish, but it is a sign that there was a large amount of ammonia recently in your tank. It's the opinion of a few that it is bad to do a water change while there are still nitrite readings.
The "reefsafe" meds will do nothing for your fish and may even cause problems for your inverts as with any other meds used to treat parasites. QT is your only option in a reef/invert system. And you'll have a lot to contend with having that many fish all at once on with a 55g. It can be done however if the QT is cycled. Though with nothing in your QT presently though you should have an established bacteria culture, it will be stressed in having to deal with that much load all of a sudden. With hypo you'll run into ph swings that will intensify the problems of your other readings turning ammonium into free ammonia etc. So, frequent water changes and buffer are a must. Depending on how badly infected your fish are, you may want to try to build up your bacteria in your QT before putting all the fish in. Or perhaps splitting up the fish load between a few or more QT's to not stress it as much(QT doesn't have to be a "tank" it can be anything holding water. Either way, you have to establish more of a colony either putting a sponge or bio-wheel from a filter in your sump for a week or two or feed the QT/'s with marine based food ie, shrimp, or fish flesh.

 

[jbird0420]

Then tank has been setup for about 1.5 yrs now. Its a 225 with approx 150lbs of LR. No inverts, purely FO. Ich is not bad it comes and goes, a spot or 2 here. Spot or 2 there. It seems to disappear and reappear. None of the fish are covered in it. I just did a 15% water change to see if it helps. I know I have a lot of fish in the tank, about 18 to be exact and 6 are large fish. I had no outbreak of anything till I introduced my Hippo 2 weeks back, immediately removed him and 2 weeks later the other fish are now showing signs.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13370778#post13370778 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by paulamrein
How long has the tank been set up, and how long between each introduction of fish, how much live rock do you have in the tank. I ask because there should be not detectable Nitrite in your tank at all. It's been proven that Nitrite has very little effect on saltwater fish, but it is a sign that there was a large amount of ammonia recently in your tank. It's the opinion of a few that it is bad to do a water change while there are still nitrite readings.
The "reefsafe" meds will do nothing for your fish and may even cause problems for your inverts as with any other meds used to treat parasites. QT is your only option in a reef/invert system. And you'll have a lot to contend with having that many fish all at once on with a 55g. It can be done however if the QT is cycled. Though with nothing in your QT presently though you should have an established bacteria culture, it will be stressed in having to deal with that much load all of a sudden. With hypo you'll run into ph swings that will intensify the problems of your other readings turning ammonium into free ammonia etc. So, frequent water changes and buffer are a must. Depending on how badly infected your fish are, you may want to try to build up your bacteria in your QT before putting all the fish in. Or perhaps splitting up the fish load between a few or more QT's to not stress it as much(QT doesn't have to be a "tank" it can be anything holding water. Either way, you have to establish more of a colony either putting a sponge or bio-wheel from a filter in your sump for a week or two or feed the QT/'s with marine based food ie, shrimp, or fish flesh.