Im So Sad Hurt And Disgusted

[newreefbishop]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/10/25/coral.threat.ap/index.html


Read that article, its so sad, especially for those of us here who know how important this is to mankind as a whole. There has to be a way to prevent this....

 

[D Ro Supafly]

We can't do anything to stop it, Bishop.

We can do something to help, though.... aquaculture!

Every reef tank has the potential to be a coral farm, protecting threatened species from extinction and producing healthy, hardy corals that propagate readily. That means that we can repopulate the reefs with some lost species at some point in the future.

If we change our perspective just a little, our hobby can become a lot more than just a little chunk of reef in a glass box of water!

 

[Ding2daDong]

I think that corals will evolve just like we have and everything else has. They all wont just die out. They will evolve to withstand alot over time. For a while alot might die but many corals will make it through. IMHO

-Matt

 

[D Ro Supafly]

It's true, they've gone through many cycles of the earth warming and cooling and survived. That's not the real threat, in my opinion. The polution that we produce on land makes its way into the oceans through phosphate-rich groundwater run off whenever it rains. Pesticides, heavy metals, acids, and other toxic wastes flow right down the canals and out into the ocean. In many places, sewage, processed or unprocessed, gets flushed out "by accident."

Global warming is a problem, but, honestly, the world has warming events and cooling events in cycles and we're overdue for the next climate shift and like the DOng-man says, everything evolves.

Pollution is hard to evolve with.

 

[itz frank]

Water treatment plants are also to blame. Up untill my enviro. science class at FIU went to the virginia key plant, i thought that treated water was simply returned to a well or holding area where it was directed back into our homes after being cleaned. However, the real truth is that after it goes through chemical cleaning, with the use of chlorine and other chemicals, the CHLORINATED fresh water is pumped 3 miles out into the ocean. The amount of chlorine needed to kill algae is 1ppm. With the amount of chlorine being pumped in the ocean, as an example, the pipe itself has no algae that grows on it. Not to mention there is a small number of organisms that live near the pipe. The rules that water treatment plants have to follow are vary vague. There isn't a whole lot that is followed as a guideline. Basically what they do is add some chemicals and let mother nature send the water into the water cycle for purification. Which is the main cause of rainwater's pH having an acidic pH.

 

[Ryanqk]

Its so sad, even here in hollywood the sewage goes out to the reef and theres just tons of green algae on everything. I dont think corals will evolve fast enough to keep up . I think 90% of coral and most SPS and LPS corals in the wild may die. Its a catastrophe on a global scale and i dont think there is much that can or will be done, thats one reason i am in this hobby, in 50 years what is in our tanks may be extinct in the wild. i want to preserve what i can...

 

[Voltekker]

Humans are responsible for aprox 3.2% of the carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere anually (from about 5-6 billion tons).. The earth naturally releases 90billion tons of CO2 from our oceans and around 60+ from our vegetation. so around 150-160 billion tons total.

Carbon dioxide makes up only 5-7 percent of all the greenhouse gasses in our atmosphere. The most common, and the gas which absorbs more thermal radiation, is WATER VAPOR, accounting for about 90-95% of ALL GREENHOUSE GASSES...

How, in just over 100 years of industrial revolution, polluting only a miniscule fraction of the carbon dioxide, and an even smaller fraction of total greenhouse gasses, did we cause global warming?

Also
I think global warming is a real event, we just aren't causing it. The earth goes through heating and cooling cycles, it looks like we are at the begining of a warming cycle. Our 5% contribition is probably having little to no effect on the total temperature changes going on.

 

[45commando]

I think you hit the nail on the head.Compare the world of today to 100 years back:How many hydro-carbon engines were around then compared to today,how many power stations,how many more forest have been cleared?So I would say,we may not be causing it outright,but I do not think we are helping at all either.Climate change is not just about CO2 emissions.What about the heat from all the car/truck/SUV engines running?Every piece of natural ground we clear & replace with a parking lot/building etc soaks up the midday heat-then releases it back into the surroundings over a long period of time.Repeat this daily & multiply that by all the roads,malls etc & all that heat is going somewhere?So I think we may be a little bit guilty,but just my opinion.

 

[Freed]

I thought veggies took in CO2 and released O2?

 

[45commando]

In the daytime yes,due to photosynthesis,but every plant also respires & releases carbon dioxide-same reason your PH in the tank will tend to fall at night,as more CO2 than O2 is being released.

 

[Data]

I'm glad to see that there are still some people who keep their sanity when it comes to global warming which was invented by american politicians in the early 60s and taken to a full run in the 80s by so called environmentalists which had no technical or scientific credentials whatsoever.

in order to control people, leaders need to give them a common cause.
many thing (which I wouldn't want to get into) have been tried for thousands of years, some better some worse.
so off they went and find something new to give their subjects a reason to unite and voila, global warming sounds good and everybody should just agree to save the environment and the planet we live on.

the fact as mostly described correctly by voltekker (but there is also methane released by volcanic eruptions and dust particles) is that the earth has a wobble in its axis which causes dramatic climatic changes every 50k years.
to say it in simple words.
we're at the end of an ice age, this means everything is warming up and ice will melt and the planet will get hot.
after that the planet will cool down, water will freeze and half of the planet will be covered in ice and the people alive at that time will be blamed for global cooling.
it happened before and will happen again, with or without us.
this planet had many events where 30-40% of all life was wiped out, there were events where more then 90% of all life was wiped out, were there once were rainforest are now desserts and were there once where oceans are now mountains and all that without us ever being involved.
this planet is 5 billion years old, life exists for only 500 million years and has gone through some dramatic changes.
a lot more changes within the next 5 billion years will come, with us or (but most likely) without us.
btw, "they" just found that the polar caps on mars are thinning, who's to blame for that ohh, hold on a minute, haven't we send a remote control car over there? here we go.

 

[45commando]

I can't speak for anyone else,but I'm aware that the planet has gone through & will continue to go through climate change.I just happen to think,that even though the entire cause is well out of our control,that maybe we are causing the process to speed up.So shouldn't it make sense to try & at least not add to the situation,rather than say it's not my problem.