Important Blue Ring Question

Aqua_expert19

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YOUR PSYCHO IF YOU OUN ONE!!!!!! HOW DO YOU GUYS LIVE WITH ONE NEAR YOU I CANT STAND EVEN BEING IN THE WATERS OF A BLUE RING KNOWN AREA!!!! OR IN THE SAME ROOM WITH ONE A INCH OF GLASS AINT GONNA STOP ME FROM PEEING MY PANTS!! but seriously how do you avoid being bittin by one if its on your live rock im afraid to order it from tbs ive heard so many stories. how do you live with them. i know this is anouther one of those stupid blue ring thread but o well
 
Blue rings have one of the most potent toxins in the world. If someone gave me a choice to keep between a black mamba and a blue ringed i would pick the blue ringed because they require water to survive. If the black mamba gets out of its cage it could do some serious damage. For people who do know what a black mamba is they get 10', highly agggressive, aglie, ranked by many to be the worldest most dangerous snake, large venom glads,nasty venom, and one of the worldest smartest snakes.

Blue rings are interesting animals that people what to learn about. I know for me i would keep one to learn about them not has an ego thing, because that is when people make mistakes.
 
a shark pond? i was gonna do that with red bellies but decided not to with a dog. that would be cool that shark pond can i hear your plans?
 
I havent finalized anything yet. But i will be using two pond liners and a 500+sump, and two 900 bed filters by lifeguard.
 
Aqua_expert19 is right!!!

Aqua_expert19 is right!!!

It's nuts to want to own a blue ring. I love living dangerously but I also like interacting with my tank. if I had one there would be no way that I would stick my hands with in 5 feet of the tank



if you like blue ring maybe you should get a wolf instead of a dog or a tiger instead of a cat OR just play Russian roulette with a .45-caliber semiautomatic pistol.

sorry Just my .02 nothing personal
 
Re: Important Blue Ring Question

TBS rock in from Florida.... Blue Rings don't come on FL rock, they come from Southest Asia

Aqua_expert19 said:
im afraid to order it from tbs ive heard so many stories. how do you live with them. i know this is anouther one of those stupid blue ring thread but o well
 
While I do agree that having one CAN be ridiculous... if your not a moron its fairly easy to not get bitten. Same with Lions, to a lesser degree. They dont attack you from across the tank, even though they arent deadly. This guy who owns a not-L LFS found a textile snail in his snail tank. Also deadly, and he took it out and didnt die. If someone wishes to keep one, its up to them.

Also, why are you posting this? Rather Spam-ish if you ask me
 
Another off topic question....
Does anyone have the exact number of people who have died of blue ring bites? I think in one of Dr. Wood's articles it was supposed to be very small.
 
I was just browsing through the forums and this thread sparked and old flame. Years ago, in an attempt to safely acclimate one or two blue ring octopi I must have gone through over fifty of them. No matter what I did I couldn't get one to survive acclimation to any of my systems. Eventually I gave up before I caused them to go extinct. Of all the creatures I have dealt with still today I am in love with that little blue ring. It is not the stories of how deadly it is - and I had one Indonesian working for the company that was supplying me tell me that as kids they used to catch them with a small bait on a string and slowly bring them to the surface and, by hand, collect them! (much like catching blue claw crabs with a ring on a string). It is because I think they are really beautiful. If I ever was successful with the acclimation I would have set up a 125+ gallon tank to try to raise and study them. Has any one successfully held these creatures? If so how were they acclimated. Too often they would kill themselves in their shipping bag while it floated for temperature adjustment (ink would be ejected as well). I would also like to see a yellow gold pinky ring set with blue stones to resemble one. What was I not doing right to acclimate one properly?
 
I had one about 5 years ago...I too went through a few before one acclimated properly. I local store got one in for me once a week, but they never lasted a few days at the store. The fourth one survived a week so I took it home. Ive had Bimacs before, so I have had experience with cephalopods. I kept it alone it a 45 gallon "SEALED" tank with just a canister filter with modified intakes and outlets. They are truelly more beutiful to look at, if it comes out. They seem much shyer than the Bimacs. Its pretty easy to not get bit. They usually will not attack. Actually I felt bad, because they were so shy all the time. It lived for about 8 months. If I were start an octopus tank again, Id probably get a bimac since they are much more entertaining..

D.
 
Many people all over the world have had them without ever being bitten. All you hear about is the worst-case scenarios. Its not just waiting to strike out and kill you. Its an animal, thats shy and more likely to ink or hide than rushout and take you out.
 
The owners should just be aware of the potential dangers of the pets they keep. Blue rings are one of the most poisonous critters, but there are many pets that are poisonous that are regularly kept. Snakes, lionfish, puffer fish..etc..
 
Blue Ring

Blue Ring

Many years ago (20), when I was working at a LFS we had a shipment arrive with a blue ring. The owner of the store had a fit and was going to kill the poor thing rather than let it out of the bag, so I ended up taking it home.

I had it in a 29G with canister filtration and natural light. He lived for eight months, but I didn't see him much. One problem that I ran into is that he would only eat one type of crab, nothing else. Luckily I was able to get them at cost.

Never had a problem placing my hand in the tank (if I absolutely had to), just kept a large net between him and me. Of course back then I was young and stupid :D
 
I'm having a similar experience with my LFS, they just keep it in a little tiny cup with air holes in a tank, so when I get back from vacation in Jamaica I and if it hasn't died/been sold I may get it. They don't just jump on you and go for the jugular if you stick your hand in the tank, but thats what the LFS owner seems to believe with his octo in a cup.
 
Let me comment on a few of the recent postings on this thread regarding blue-rings and keeping them as pets. I have studied blue-rings for several years and have kept hundreds in our lab as well as having worked with them in the field. I have also made frequent postings and have written articles warning against keeping blue-rings as pets. I will assume that the blue-rings referred to, since they showed up in the aquarium trade, were Hapalochlaena lunulata, the greater blue-ringed octopus, common in Indonesia and the Philippines. This is almost always the species available for sale.

Eight months is a long time for one of these animals to survive in captivity, although in the field they may live up to a year. Generally, only adults are shipped and they only have a few months left before they reproduce and/or die. A juvenile that is kept at a fairly low temperature and not over-fed could last several months.

H. lunulata is not normally an aggressive species and fears that they will pounce on any hand bold enough to enter their tank are greatly over-stated. They USUALLY will not attack a passing hand. However, it can happen. Animals trained to feed from a feeding stick become increasingly aggressive and will sometimes attack the stick - or a finger - that is presented in the same way as food. I have also seen females brooding eggs act very aggressively, although typically females brood in a cavity or shell and are very hesitant to come out.

Several people have referred to H. lunulata as being "shy". They are secretive and spend a lot of time in rubble or alage. However, I would not consider this species "shy". Probably because of their aposomatic coloration and toxicity, when in the open, they typically do not retreat when approached. This is one of the things that worries me about people keeping them. An animal on the side of a tank, a favorite place for H. lunulata to hang out, can be approached by a curious finger and often will allow you to prod it before moving. You or I probably would not do this without protection, but people, particularly children who don't know the danger, might. Once contact is made, these animals often escape, but they do sometimes bite.

Reference was made to H. lunulata fleeing and inking rather than attacking. Diagnostic of Hapalochlaena is that they have a reduced inksac and do not ink as part of an escape behaviour.

Finally, contributors justifying keeping them as pets often comment that blue-rings are no more venomous than other animals such as some snakes, scorpions, spiders, stonefish, etc. True. In fact, we don't even know how venomous H. lunulata is or if all animals are equally potent. The few studies conducted have almost all been done on H. maculata and H. fasciata from southern Australia. However, most people have some knowledge that snakes and spiders are dangerous and will treat them as such. Small, pretty octopus do not generally elicit the same caution in people who do not know what they are and there in lies the problem.

Roy
 
Some things are better left alone in the wild. It's because of stories like this that beautiful animals like the blue ring, moorish idol, regal tang (yes I said regal tang) will be on the endangered list. I'm not saying there's nobody that can get one to live or provide and adequate home for it, but how many success stories have there actually been?
 
No I dont. It just happens to be my favorite fish. I think its the most beautiful and graceful of all marine fishes. I would never be able to provide for it. Thanks for asking though
 
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