Inbred clowns?

[tkdwoody]

If you get a pair of clowns from the same family will they grow up and mate and if so will there be any inbreeding in the offspring? Like three eyes or two fins?

 

[tkdwoody]

bump

 

[ficklefins]

If you are trying to replace a male with one of his offsprings then you should be ok. You will not have the same affects that humans have when inbreeding. What you may end up getting is the enforcement of dominant traits, be it color, shape, size, band width, etc...

What are you trying to do by inbreeding your clowns?

 

[tkdwoody]

I don't have any clowns yet, I just saw that a woman nearby to me was selling some baby clowns that she had hatched. I was interested in buying a couple but i didn't know if i got a brother/sister pair would they have messed up offspring

 

[Slakker]

Clowns are often bred with offspring for desirable traits...problem is that nondesirable traits are also passed on.

If I were you, I'd find out where her clowns came from (ORA, WC, whatever), get one, and then buy your second from a different genetic stock, just to maintain some diversity in the captive clownfish gene pool.

 

[tkdwoody]

cool thanks

 

[Jovreefer]

It takes about 3 generations of in-breeding before you will notice any bad side effects. Most people dont care but I personally am strictly against breeding brother and sister.

If your planning on raising and selling the offspring I'd sugest getting 2 different fish for some diversity, to many people are breeding siblings. If you just want a pair of clowns & your not planning on raising the offspring then grab a pair of brother and sister.

Some inbreeding results include the bulldog face & stubby bodies.

 

[fittiger]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12637055#post12637055 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Slakker
Clowns are often bred with offspring for desirable traits...problem is that nondesirable traits are also passed on.

If I were you, I'd find out where her clowns came from (ORA, WC, whatever), get one, and then buy your second from a different genetic stock, just to maintain some diversity in the captive clownfish gene pool.

X2

The whole reason it is taboo for humans to "inbreed" is that is significantly enhances the chance of two recessive gametes pairing up that would express disease/malformity of the offspring. This could exhibit itself in genetic disease, malformations, lowered resistence to normal infection/parasites/disease. This is true in every species.

 

[acrodave]

I have talked to Matt at SA about inbreeding and it would take 3-4 gen. to get freaks

 

[fittiger]

Absolutely not true. You could get "freaks" from breeding two wild clowns from different oceans.

If you have a diseased recessive trait in one parent it would most likely take 2 generations for the disease to express itself. If both parents (50% chance as siblings) have the recessive trait, then there is an extremely high (almost 100%) that one or more of the offspring will express the disease. Keep in mind these are not always physical malformations. It is also not always a negative attribute, but is more often than not.

 

[acrodave]

we were talking about tank raised and same kind

 

[KorL]

It should be ok. I don't think fish in the wild know what siblings are.

 

[yellowslayer13]

it should be fine as i have read it could take up to the thenth generation for you to see inbreeding reasults.