Interested in Maybe Using GFO

krzyphsygy

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I have never used GFO before. My tank is mostly sps and I feel my tank is a ULNS. I have zero NO3 and PO4 on Salifert test kit, but my color is not great on my corals. I lose color on most corals that go in to the tank. The tank is 9 onths old. This is why i think ULNS.
The reason for the GFO is despite everything I listed with my system, I have a strong algea problem. Its a weird algea that is bubbly and brown. Its not like green bubble algea, but its a frilly soft bubbly algea.

I was thinking GFO might help.
 
Agreed, crazy fishy guy!
Gfo will definitely help bring things back into perspective.
Will pull the phosphates and other toxic wastes out of the water and you will start to see your colors on sps come back in no time, hope this helps!
 
Really? I was not aware GFO could bring back my color, I thought the ulns was the cause and my tank might be to sterile but then again if that was the case, why the algae? This is what's confusing me. So you think my phosphate is maybe to high? Which is why the color loss? Even though I test zero?
 
im tagging in this one.i feel my tank is ulns also.i have goo colors but payle at the same time.
as for p04 tests show zero correct me if im wrong but it shows a 0 reading because the algae is consuming it?
 
Crazy fishy guy
We should be headed in the right direction and it can't hurt, i honestly believe they should start coming back slowly but surely.
 
In my experience, excess nutrients can cause color loss/browning of corals; in this case, I feel GFO can be a valuable tool to help get the P down to a range 0.02-0.03. But if you can't measure your P, then GFO actually may make matters worse.

If you want to address your algae issue, IME, GFO will not help given your situation, since the algae is already established its foothold.

I would try to ID the algae, and determine if you can eliminate it via AlgaeFix or purchase a fish/clean up crew that specialize in consuming your algae type as a first step (there's a huge thread on RC). I had a similar situation to you relative to algae. (no issues with lack of SPS color, however). I had very low levels of N and P, but could not get rid of the green HA, in my system, even with the use of GFO. If your nitrate and phosphate readings are accurate, then IMO the lack of color is likely due to the ULN. GFO will only drive the nutrients lower, but it will likely not eliminate the algae, and it may even make your goal of getting more color in your corals worse.

In my case, I dosed AlgaeFix marine for a month, and essentially eliminated the nuisance algae from my system. While I dosed the AF, I ran my skimmer wetter than normal and used GFO to reduce the P during the algae die off, and did a 5% water change weekly.

Once you have the algae under control, feed your fish in your system frequently, and they should produce enough "poop" to feed your corals, and that will bring out the color in conjunction with good lighting, proper flow, good skimmer and good husbandry practice. If you read some of the threads on ULNS, they all do something to feed their corals to bring out the corals. The use of GFO once you have the algae under control will help to keep the algae at bay and your P in a range that promotes growth and coloration.

Good luck!
 
Your test kits may be correct that there is a undetectable amount of phos and nitrate in the water, but the algae may be consuming it quickly. You can get a GFO reactor going for relatively cheap so it is not a big deal to try it out. It definitely helps lower phos in a system which can help bring back colors in the SPS.
 
Excellent information, thank you very much! I am going to get a Hanna checker to check true phos levels first. Then go from there. Salifert just measures zero so I find it hard to believe its really zero because I feel like a bacteria bloom is happening in my system right now. Once I see the true results of phos, I can take your other suggestions. I had no idea that GFO could help me in this way so thank for the support. Very informative, thanks
 
Any idea how much GFO I should start with? I have about 115 gallons total in my system, but my system has never used GFO before. I don't want to shock it. Also which GFO should I use. I was thinking basic media bag also.
 
GFO will adsorb PO4, silicate and some metals;it's a useful tool.
Not all algae is PO4 limited to the same degree green microalgaes are. Don't know what you have;dinoflagellates, maybe? Browns and reds need less,ime.
Personally, I used gfo for years. Don't need it anymore; since organic carbon dosing( vodka and vinegar) keeps inorganic N and P low but not zero, ie, PO4,,.03ppm and NO3,0.2ppm. Virtually no nuisance algae ;coral colors and growth are good in the sps dominant mixed reef sytem which also house over 40 well fed fish.
 
So here is a snap shot of the worst are of the tank. Can anyone ID this algae. I have never seen it before in any tank nor have I ever has the algae before.
 

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GFO will adsorb PO4, silicate and some metals;it's a useful tool.
Not all algae is PO4 limited to the same degree green microalgaes are. Don't know what you have;dinoflagellates, maybe? Browns and reds need less,ime.
Personally, I used gfo for years. Don't need it anymore; since organic carbon dosing( vodka and vinegar) keeps inorganic N and P low but not zero, ie, PO4,,.03ppm and NO3,0.2ppm. Virtually no nuisance algae ;coral colors and growth are good in the sps dominant mixed reef sytem which also house over 40 well fed fish.

Thanks, carbon dosing seems very complicated, how do I know how to dose, when and how much. Whats used ect for what type of system. It sounds good. Whats the good and the bad?
 
I would use a cup of HC GFO (BRS) and change it every week. Bacteria coats it usually within 7-14 days and renders it useless.
 
I would use a cup of HC GFO (BRS) and change it every week. Bacteria coats it usually within 7-14 days and renders it useless.

Do you mean it coats the GFO? So just change it once a week until my readings, if high , go down to acceptable levels?
Is the HC GFO to strong to use at first? Will it shock my system?
 
Do you mean it coats the GFO? So just change it once a week until my readings, if high , go down to acceptable levels?
Is the HC GFO to strong to use at first? Will it shock my system?

Use half of that to start....

A cup for 100 gallons approx divided in half.

Bacteria coats.
 
I had a problem with my tank being a ulns. I was running too much gfo and pulling everything out the water. My corals were very pale and most were dying. About 3 months ago I decided to remove half of the gfo and started feeding the fish more along with dosing reef fuel. Within 1 week there was a huge difference, corals starting coming back real good. Even corals that I thought were dead sprung back and are growing back again. Be careful with adding gfo to your system. I suggest adding it slowly and then seeing if you need more to keep levels in check. Good luck
 
I would use 1/2 the recommended amount at the most & monitor your alkalinity. Too much gfo can lower your alkalinity. It's better to start off in smaller amounts & change more frequently than to overdo it in my experiance.
 
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