is my angel a queen or blue?

is my angel a queen or blue?

  • Queen Angel

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Blue Angel

    Votes: 13 40.6%
  • Hybrid Townsend Angel

    Votes: 14 43.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    32
Finding a pure blue is not the rarity... but numbers in South Florida were studied and there were areas where the hybrids made up nearly 10%... At inshore channels there are next to no queens found... blues dominate almost everywhere in Florida expect the reef tops off shore, where queens do... it is generally believed that blues evolved along the shorelines and queens at offshore reefs... recently in areas like Florida the two populations have mixed back together...

Peter, your old fish, and the one you show with black in the crown... is indeed the hybrid... :)

Copps

Thanks John, you are always good for an informative post! Looking at my old pics really makes me miss that fish.
 
Thanks John, you are always good for an informative post! Looking at my old pics really makes me miss that fish.

Peter, be happy you have the photos! My mother got rid of all of mine from growing up, along with my entire Star Wars collection that would probably now be worth more than my angelfish collection! I haven't been into Star Wars since I was a kid but that will irk me until I hit the grave! While it wasn't my first angel (a koran was), when I was about 11 or 12 I had an adult blue angel... I wonder if it was a hybrid!

For a cool yellow xanthic morph check out this little blue angel... I have this guy in my big reef now and he completely morphed back!

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Copps
 
Not so little anymore... maybe 3 to 4"... a subadult now... this was it a while ago in the process of changing... seen now it looks completely normal...

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And on the topic of flame wrasses it reminded me of this guy... who also changed back...

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A few world renowned ichthyologists are amazed that some of these things change back...

Edit: sorry to get off topic Chevyman...

Copps
 
no prob copps

so are we pretty much 100% mine is a hybrid? im getting mixed signals again with a blue? the poll shows 10 to 7 hybrid
 
whats the going average rate for townsends? i seen queens at lfs store upwards of 160ish and blues around 80 but never noticed a townsend
 
no prob copps

so are we pretty much 100% mine is a hybrid? im getting mixed signals again with a blue? the poll shows 10 to 7 hybrid

I am as sure as I could be without DNA... :) The fish is mostly blue, this the mixed results... do you have a bet going with a buddy or something?:D


whats the going average rate for townsends? i seen queens at lfs store upwards of 160ish and blues around 80 but never noticed a townsend

In all honesty most all of the hybrids either sell as blues or queens depending on what they look more like... When they are sold as Townsend's the price is usually between a queen and a blue... at least in the US...
 
I'd say it probably has a little blue in it, based on the stripes and the overall color.
 
isnt it funny how i bring up this topic about my queen or blue or whatever it is, now everyone is supectful of thiers lol

<B>QUEEN</B>
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<B>BLUE</B>
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But the majority of it looks like a queen??

Copps??

Yes that fish is all or mostly queen... Note the curvature of the 4th white bar from the eye... At that size it is impossible to tell if the fish has a little blue angel in it, unless you can verify it was a specimen imported from Brazil... Notice also that the dorsal and anal filaments become elongated at a smaller size in queens... the blues stay "boxier" longer...

Funny you put up the Liveaquaria photos... their adult blue angel photo was a hybrid until I let them know about it earlier this year... :D

Copps
 
Where can one purchase the yellow morph? I've been looking recently into adding a queen to my FOWLR. My local LFS of which I have two that I regularly shop at don't bring them in.
 
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