Is this aiptasia?
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->L<- REEF
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Hey Tran,
www.reeftropicals.com, go to florida aquacultured rock , then to the list of organisms on this rock, then look at # 24 on part 2. Another vender that isnt afraid to call it what it is. The link might not work but if you type it in your address bar it will go.
And then here is another link, also # 24 http://www.liverocks.com/species.html
www.reeftropicals.com, go to florida aquacultured rock , then to the list of organisms on this rock, then look at # 24 on part 2. Another vender that isnt afraid to call it what it is. The link might not work but if you type it in your address bar it will go.
And then here is another link, also # 24 http://www.liverocks.com/species.html
hdtran
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>L< & Mammoth,
The A. tagetes picture posted at the bsu site is too small for my eyes; I'm getting middle-aged. The description talks about "hundreds of tentacles," but I don't think the anemone in question has that high a density of tentacles.
The Aiptasia pictures at gulf-view are also too small. They used to be linked to a larger photo, but the link is now broken.
The reeftropicals list and triton list are the same. The reeftropicals rock is Florida keys rock, not Tampa Bay gulf.
Tony's photo looks closer to the suspect anemone (which I do have, so I know exactly what it looks like; I'm just not as good at taking a photo). Tony, does the P. Humann field guide list a latin name?
Gregt, thanks for helping keeping things civil.
The A. tagetes picture posted at the bsu site is too small for my eyes; I'm getting middle-aged. The description talks about "hundreds of tentacles," but I don't think the anemone in question has that high a density of tentacles.
The Aiptasia pictures at gulf-view are also too small. They used to be linked to a larger photo, but the link is now broken.
The reeftropicals list and triton list are the same. The reeftropicals rock is Florida keys rock, not Tampa Bay gulf.
Tony's photo looks closer to the suspect anemone (which I do have, so I know exactly what it looks like; I'm just not as good at taking a photo). Tony, does the P. Humann field guide list a latin name?
Gregt, thanks for helping keeping things civil.
coyoteseven
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Here's a link I found with decent pics of aiptasia:
http://www.reefcorner.com/SpecimenSheets/aipatasia.htm
The pics on this page look an awful like what I got on my TBS (right down to the striped tentacles), so to me, they were aiptasia. To others, they might be a different critter.
Anyhoooo ... whether they were truly aips or not, I got some Joe's Juice and nuked the little buggers. Besides, they were taking up some of the real estate I reserved for future SPS colonies.
Aiptasia or not, it doesn't make a rat's rump to me... but I will agree with ->L<- REEF about one thing, if they truly are aips, let's identify them as such. As one of the thousands (maybe millions
) of satisfied TBS customers, I am willing to take the good along with the bad and the ugly. The word :eek1: AIPTASIA :eek1: doesn't scare me.
I am a TBS customer/supporter now and will be for all my new tanks in the future.
Now... ... if I can only catch that last mantis before I die! :lmao:
Just my 2Ã"šÃ‚¢ :smokin:
http://www.reefcorner.com/SpecimenSheets/aipatasia.htm
The pics on this page look an awful like what I got on my TBS (right down to the striped tentacles), so to me, they were aiptasia. To others, they might be a different critter.
Anyhoooo ... whether they were truly aips or not, I got some Joe's Juice and nuked the little buggers. Besides, they were taking up some of the real estate I reserved for future SPS colonies.
Aiptasia or not, it doesn't make a rat's rump to me... but I will agree with ->L<- REEF about one thing, if they truly are aips, let's identify them as such. As one of the thousands (maybe millions
) of satisfied TBS customers, I am willing to take the good along with the bad and the ugly. The word :eek1: AIPTASIA :eek1: doesn't scare me.I am a TBS customer/supporter now and will be for all my new tanks in the future.
Now... ... if I can only catch that last mantis before I die! :lmao:
Just my 2Ã"šÃ‚¢ :smokin:
Ancient Storm
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<L> Reef, I did read the entire thread. You act like the know it all of Aiptasias, and insist that they are on the TBS rock, yet your continually calling for an expert to confirm your theory. And it appears thats all it is "theory". Richard includes Peppermints with his package so they shouldnt be a problem one way or the other. In fact, the same "anenomes" in my tank are now done to one from original four. The one I yanked with the tongs havent magically multipled into the hundreds your horror story predicted. In fact it seems you purposely are trying to multiply these in Mamouth's tank (spelled it that way on purpose). So it appears you are just looking for a reason to complain. As for the Mantis, none on my rock. Looks like you got what you deserved there.
->L<- REEF
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Storm,
I can see why you didnt get any mantis, with a 30 gallon tank what you got in there 4 or 5 rocks? When you need a enough rock to fill 435 gallons your chances of getting a mantis or three are just a wee bit better. Got what I deserved, you betcha, I always do. When i refered to them replicating by frags of themself be it breaking them up trying to remove them or themselves breaking up to replicate it was in an enviroment that has no natural predators, your tank has natural predators and if you read the post above yours you will notice he injected his with a needle and hot water. Why do think he did it that way? because that is the recommended way to kill them without breaking them up. So again you cant be sure that yours havent replicated. Did you read the first thread that was dated back a month or so too, that started the questions about this Anemone?
I can see why you didnt get any mantis, with a 30 gallon tank what you got in there 4 or 5 rocks? When you need a enough rock to fill 435 gallons your chances of getting a mantis or three are just a wee bit better. Got what I deserved, you betcha, I always do. When i refered to them replicating by frags of themself be it breaking them up trying to remove them or themselves breaking up to replicate it was in an enviroment that has no natural predators, your tank has natural predators and if you read the post above yours you will notice he injected his with a needle and hot water. Why do think he did it that way? because that is the recommended way to kill them without breaking them up. So again you cant be sure that yours havent replicated. Did you read the first thread that was dated back a month or so too, that started the questions about this Anemone?
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->L<- REEF
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Mr. Tran
I am sorry to have offended you by refering to you as Tran, didnt realize that i needed "permission" to refer to you in that manner. You may call me Mr. >L<, Dr. >L<, Mr. Reef, Dr. Reef Mr. >L< Reef, Dr. >L< Reef, >L<, >Reef<, or anything else you would like.
I am sorry to have offended you by refering to you as Tran, didnt realize that i needed "permission" to refer to you in that manner. You may call me Mr. >L<, Dr. >L<, Mr. Reef, Dr. Reef Mr. >L< Reef, Dr. >L< Reef, >L<, >Reef<, or anything else you would like.
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P. Humann's book only lists the Order...Actinaria.
There is a note which reads "Although this anemone is relatively common, its living appearance has not been matched with a scientific identification...microscopic examination is necessary to establish visual identification..."
There is a note which reads "Although this anemone is relatively common, its living appearance has not been matched with a scientific identification...microscopic examination is necessary to establish visual identification..."
New Picture of the "unknown".
New Picture of the "unknown".
I have also tried to find out in different books at the local library more info on the unknown creature! So far, I am more confused than before, but maybe with all of us working together, we can get to the bottom of this!
Here is a new picture:
We have a peppermint shrimp, and he isn't interested at all. The anemone has really grown in the last few days, and he still hasn't moved!
Lessa
New Picture of the "unknown".
I have also tried to find out in different books at the local library more info on the unknown creature! So far, I am more confused than before, but maybe with all of us working together, we can get to the bottom of this!
Here is a new picture:
We have a peppermint shrimp, and he isn't interested at all. The anemone has really grown in the last few days, and he still hasn't moved!
Lessa
barnacle bill
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aiptasia
aiptasia
yes it is definately an aiptasia it will spread fast as they are very successfull feeders thats the bad part about rock with so much life on it alot of stuff you dont want. Kill it before it spreads!:uzi: :uzi:
aiptasia
yes it is definately an aiptasia it will spread fast as they are very successfull feeders thats the bad part about rock with so much life on it alot of stuff you dont want. Kill it before it spreads!:uzi: :uzi:
squintypanda
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I got some on my rocks I got from liverocks.com also... 
looks EXACTLY like that... going to get a peppermint shrimp or two soon and order some joe's juice just in case....
looks EXACTLY like that... going to get a peppermint shrimp or two soon and order some joe's juice just in case....shanekennedy
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just read this entire thread
from the harsh tones of L-reef & mammoth, their low # of postings, the fact they've only posted to the TBS forum, & the fact they registered within a month of each other, i would speculate they are competitors of tbs looking to discredit his business,
possibly the same person w/ 2 accounts
they sound like they have an agenda
as for the aiptasia
foster/smith identify the numerous curly que photos in this thread as being from the aiptasiidae family
http://liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=23&pCatId=1703
so it's aptasia, doesn't mean it death (not all farts stink)
i don't beleive they would see an anemone that spreads like weed
mammoth's photo shows about a dozen anemones that were grown from 1 in 8 months time
8 months is a long span
i usually stop by lfs's on a bi-weekly basis
i've seen tanks taken over in 2 weeks
my 2 cents is that the striped brown anemones on tbs rock is a type of aiptasia
whether is's bad or good is up to you
if you don't like it, kill it
mine is still growing, i may eventually take it out
& i'm still very satisfied w/ my tbs rock
sk
from the harsh tones of L-reef & mammoth, their low # of postings, the fact they've only posted to the TBS forum, & the fact they registered within a month of each other, i would speculate they are competitors of tbs looking to discredit his business,
possibly the same person w/ 2 accounts
they sound like they have an agenda
as for the aiptasia
foster/smith identify the numerous curly que photos in this thread as being from the aiptasiidae family
http://liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=23&pCatId=1703
so it's aptasia, doesn't mean it death (not all farts stink)
i don't beleive they would see an anemone that spreads like weed
mammoth's photo shows about a dozen anemones that were grown from 1 in 8 months time
8 months is a long span
i usually stop by lfs's on a bi-weekly basis
i've seen tanks taken over in 2 weeks
my 2 cents is that the striped brown anemones on tbs rock is a type of aiptasia
whether is's bad or good is up to you
if you don't like it, kill it
mine is still growing, i may eventually take it out
& i'm still very satisfied w/ my tbs rock
sk
hdtran
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sk,
"Pest" aiptasias are pests because they (a) tolerate poor water conditions, (b) have a relatively powerful sting, (c) proliferate easily, (d) are relatively unattractive (in the eye of the beholder). A noted aquarist (I want to say Anthony Calfo, but I'm not certain) proposed (perhaps in jest) to use aiptasia anemones as a nutrient exporter (like an algae scrubber).
I don't think dleko's pictured anemone is the classic aiptasia that we've come to know (and unlove) as seen in the LFS. I'm pretty convinced (Mr Mammoth & Mr/Ms >reef< to the contrary) that it is not A. pallida.
On the other hand, I think it's a very close match to the "sponge anemone" (common name, no latin) as posted from P. Humann's book, courtesy Tonyh67.
That said, IMO, there's nothing further to be learned in this thread. It's not my thread, but if I were dleko, I'd politely ask a moderator to close it off.
I don't hang much in NRF or GRF anymore, as the posting volume has gotten way larger than I can keep up with, and the general tone is not as friendly. I'd hate for this forum to lose it's "small town" atmosphere.
Regards,
Hy D. Tran, PhD, PE
"Pest" aiptasias are pests because they (a) tolerate poor water conditions, (b) have a relatively powerful sting, (c) proliferate easily, (d) are relatively unattractive (in the eye of the beholder). A noted aquarist (I want to say Anthony Calfo, but I'm not certain) proposed (perhaps in jest) to use aiptasia anemones as a nutrient exporter (like an algae scrubber).
I don't think dleko's pictured anemone is the classic aiptasia that we've come to know (and unlove) as seen in the LFS. I'm pretty convinced (Mr Mammoth & Mr/Ms >reef< to the contrary) that it is not A. pallida.
On the other hand, I think it's a very close match to the "sponge anemone" (common name, no latin) as posted from P. Humann's book, courtesy Tonyh67.
That said, IMO, there's nothing further to be learned in this thread. It's not my thread, but if I were dleko, I'd politely ask a moderator to close it off.
I don't hang much in NRF or GRF anymore, as the posting volume has gotten way larger than I can keep up with, and the general tone is not as friendly. I'd hate for this forum to lose it's "small town" atmosphere.
Regards,
Hy D. Tran, PhD, PE
try this: http://claycoleman.tripod.com/id148.htm
greenbean36191
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Not long ago Dr. Shimek wrote something about how there is a tendency to automaticly label any small brown anemone Aiptasia. For some reason I can't find the thread right now, but I will keep looking. He also emphasized that no form of Aiptaisa is found anywhere near the area where TBS or Gulfview harvest their rock. So if you have an anemone on your TBS it is not Aiptasia. However, that doesn't mean it won't replicate and sting corals.
FWIW, mammoth, if what you had was Aiptasia you would have many more than 12 of them in 9 months. BTAs can split that much in 9 months.
Also, the lightbulb anemone is another name for the Majano (Actinaria majano- notice the genus name from Humann), which is a pest too. The first anemone didn't look like Majano to me, but the last pictures definately do.
FWIW, mammoth, if what you had was Aiptasia you would have many more than 12 of them in 9 months. BTAs can split that much in 9 months.
Also, the lightbulb anemone is another name for the Majano (Actinaria majano- notice the genus name from Humann), which is a pest too. The first anemone didn't look like Majano to me, but the last pictures definately do.
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