Really wish I would have came across this thread two months ago.
Just to comment on my experience for those that are waiting.
1. Order placed Sept. 23rd ETA on delivery according to Fedex is 11/25, do the math.
2. Fact that they don't respond to emails within a day, big red flag on what support might be like, hopefully not.
3. Rick has responded in mass to those waiting on their order on several occasions with the reasoning that China factory was overwhelmed with orders and then they discovered a defect which took them longer to fix. Lesson to be learned, I won't order from a Vendor that does not have stock on hand.
4. When I finally called got the same voice mail to fill out the form on the website. Don't remember if I got a response.
I will say that he did try and make good on the delay half way through by upgrading everyone that ordered the 165P to to the new model 165p+ at no additional cost. That would have been great if the lights got there when expected there after. In the meantime I was buying frags based on expected delivery dates so corals have browned out from old MHs and lost a couple of colonies. Can't blame him entirely for that.
Now, everyone that I've come across that does have them seems to be please, at least with the 165* models. One thing that scares me is that the lights are only controllable from a mobile app that is not even downloadable from Apple app store but from some china website, who knows what else I'm installing on my phone??
I will say that once he got the Fedex tracking number from China for the shipment to him he has been more responsive on R 2 R and with me personally.
I will provide feedback and picks when I get them installed. For the value and the light setup it's hard to find a comparable lamp. Something comparable would be the Radion 30 Pros that mrx66699 posted but man, how much did those bad boys co$$$t? if I'm not mistaken there's about $4K on that table. I ordered 3 lamps at a cool $600 more or less as I ordered some other things and he did give me a discount on the total order.
As stated, will provide update when I get them next week.