Isla Escondido - invincible569's Rimless 300g

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9932372#post9932372 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dandy7200
Invincible, do you have a link for those 220CFM fans? Were they super loud? I'm going to just build my own sleek looking housing and want to put some high volume fans in it. Starting to get a little warm and want to avoid the chiller :) Your tank is really starting to take shape, are your water parameters starting to stabilize yet?
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They are super loud. If you have ever heard a server on, thats how loud it is. I dotn mind the noise though. Its soothing :) Well, i was just downstairs to look at the brand and now I forgot. lol. ok here it is.. Circuit-Test Tubeaxial Fan. It's rated at 28w, ball bearings. It's so strong I cant put my head in front of it without having to close my eyes. :) I still use these fans to circulate the chiller utlity room and the garage where the sump is.

Other than that, the water parameters have been very stable now. Alk has not fluctuated for a while now and has stayed at 11. I do water changes every 2 wks. All corals and fish are doing well too. Just got some frags and a pair of clowns from a local friend, Kevin. My Flagfin really liked to nip at the pink chalice. He wouldnt leave it alone. I moved it very high and he hasnt seen it since.
 
dandy, here it is.. this is exactly what they are.. wow, i didnt know they were that loud.. 60db's!! LOL.

What I noticed though over my last tank is that I had two of these blowing over the tank. I sometimes only used one because it evaporated quicker. But when I had both on, the chiller wouldnt come on as much. The more air, the better.. but also you increase evaporation.

http://www.circuittest.com/English/Content/Items/CFB11515038HB.asp

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Hi Invis,

The MH I'm using is a AquaMedic OceanLight150+.
It a good set of MH. Enough for my application.

About the 220CFM fan. I think the noise in dB it produce is too loud to be used in a living room. Before getting these fans, I have study the entire catalog from Papst. And realised that there is no way to increase the CFM and at the same time have a low noise output. The CFM and noise are linear.

Hence, the one I am using should be the quietest with the highest CFM output available.
I think mine is 45dB with a CFM output of 175.

The output of each Giesemann should be around 110 CFM the most.
I try to contact the Giesemann technician the other time by calling Germany.
They were not very sure either as the fan they use were from a 3rd party.
Perhaps I didnt get the right person. But, I am sure they cannot be more than 110 CFM.

When I have time, I will perhaps build 5 or 7 unit of them together like what Giesemann did. But the evaporation rate would be crazy.
 
175 CFM is plenty. The 220 I have is a little too strong, but I purchased them as trial and error years ago. I think you have the perfect fan choice. Im not too sure if the Giesemann CFM is even that strong.. I could be wrong. It sure doesnt feel that strong. in other words, its not half the speed of what the 220's are. If you plan to build a multifan, try 3. thats plenty. Giesemann has a 3 version too.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9932748#post9932748 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ray_archer2003
Before getting these fans, I have study the entire catalog from Papst. And realised that there is no way to increase the CFM and at the same time have a low noise output. The CFM and noise are linear.
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Fan size is also a variable impacting the sound quality.
 
Another initiation.. this time its a Majestic Angel - Pomacanthus Navarchus. Its suppose to be the most safest out of the Pomacanthus family. The color of this fish is a great addition for diversity. No issues with any of the other angels. Everyone is happy.

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that is a awsome awsome fish. people who come to your house and dont know much about fish will think that one is the coolest(wow factor). also ive heard they have a nice personality. Are you noticing that the angels are pretty "smart"? do they interact or just pass each other?\






How is the butterfly doing?
 
Cantonesefish, you must be reading my mind! ;) 8 Respelended's would be ideal, but im sure you and I both know that that would never happen especially since they are illegal. I do plan to add some pygmy's now. Those guys act more territorial and thats why I have been staying away from them right now. It would be a pain to get a pygmy out. I definitely want a pair of pygmy's or even 3 plus. I almost pulled the trigger on some that naka referred me to for 3 Potters, but wanted something a little more uncommon.

GSM, each angel has its unique personality. The Blue spotted loves to go around the sand looking for inverts to eat. The Flagfin likes to eat out of my hand. The Bellus is like any other fish and just swims around. He's the quickest. The Majestic is still getting acclimated into his new home and Im sure he will be fantastic. The bannerfish is very docile.. reminds me of a cardinalfish's personality. The reason I got the Majestic was because of its unique color over any other fish. It was either him or the Blueline. The risk of the blueline was larger though.

James, Thanks man! It's now time to concentrate more on the corals. Im in search for a nice anemone. Something different. :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9935260#post9935260 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by invincible569
Im in search for a nice anemone. Something different. :)
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what kind of anemone are you looking for?

also what kind of clowns would you want?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9935360#post9935360 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
what kind of anemone are you looking for?

also what kind of clowns would you want?
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Hey GSM.. im looking for a non RBTA or GBTA. I saw a purple anemone on liveaquaria recently which caught my eye, but it is not there anymore. No carpets.. just a nice colorful anemone. As for the fish, I got two perc clowns already. :)

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The purple one that you saw was most likely a purple LTA (Macrodactyla doreensis) I got one of these about 3 weeks ago from there, but its foot was damaged and it didn't make it. But I have one in my other tank.

Here is a bad pic of it.

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BTW love your Majestic Angel, I have a juvi blue face.
And since I am showing pics. ;) He was a little beat up from my Lemonpeel -- so the Lemonpeel was sold.

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the purples on divers den were H. Malu,

i think a nice H crispa or an S. gigantea would be best for them :) neither are big fish eaters like haddoni or magnifica.

P.S. your tank is perfect for another pair of clowns as well like a couple onyx, picasso, or snowflakes. :) 300g is definetly big enough for 2 pair of percs or ocellaris.
 
PLTAs can be a real hassle too. My GBTAs behave well and just get really big...like 20 - 26". My PLTA, just as I had been warned several times about, will stay in one spot for 2 - 3 weeks and then decide it wants to cruise around the tank tasting everything. Dring a visit with Steve Weast, he confessed that he had sold his to someone else for that very reason...bummer because I got mine becuase his was so beautiful!
 
This is good experience information guys on the LTA's. Im glad you guys are discussing this because it sways me from one anemone to another. If the LTA's move around so much, would it be an issue to sew into an LTA's foot and tie it up to a rock? I have done this with other softies and they grow very well. It's kind of like surgery for a human.. it doesnt hurt us and only helps us. Do the LTA's like to find a deep crevice to anchor their foot like a BTA or do they like other types of surfaces?

Todd, nice fish!! Thats what happened to my multicolor angel. My orange shoulder nipped him to death.

GSM, I like your thinking about the snowflakes. Where can you find those?
 
I haven't heard of anyone fastening an anemone down. My research does point to the PLTA probably enjoying a DSB, which I do not have. My PLTA will spend time under the rocks, but has also been right out front for extended periods. Often I have read that anemones find a spot they like and stick with it, and that when one is unhappy it will move around.

Both Steve Weast's tank and my own support other anemones quite well. Steve has 30+ RBTAs in his tank and I have 2 GIANT GBTAs in mine. I have had a struggle with the hPLTA and recently found out that it likes shrimp. It would not eat the silversides and other food the GBTAs eat. Since I have been feeding it shrimp, it has been much healthier, but then the latest release and ensuing fight with a Vortech pump caused it a grat deal of stress.
 
Thanks invincible -- I am sooo glad I sold that Lemonpeel -- I had even put in the sump for 3 weeks, and redid the rock work -- that didn't work at all. The blue face is so much happier now -- out and about and eats like a pig. But, sorry to hear that yours was nipped to death.

My PLTA hasn't moved in about 2 months -- just prior to that it got sucked into my SIEO --- looked awful afterwards, but has made a great comeback. IME, they will move when something (even minor) changes -- lazy on WC, move a powerhead, accidently drip too much Kalk (that is what I think happened the last time). But, mine doesn't anchor like a BTA, it likes to be in the sandbed with its foot attached to the bottom of the tank -- though it seems to like its foot attached to the part of the glass that is under a rock.
 
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