"Japanese Deepwater Zoanthids": Any Feedback?

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flamehawkfish

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hi All

It's been a while since I've been on the zoa board.

I just bought some 'Japanese Deepwater' zoas (they ship today, arrive tomorrow) from extremecorals. It's my first purchase from them, so I'm crossin' my fingers.

Does anyone have feedback on Japanese Deepwater zoas? Is that just a label/gimmick, or are they a separate type of Zoanthid? Do they require any special care over 'other' zoanthids?

Please let me know. Also, I'll keep peops posted after I get 'em and they acclimate. Based on the pics, they look nice.

Take care,

Flamehawk
 
More of a gimmicky name then anything. It is more of a look, usually a think band around the mouth with another color. I have the LA Laker, emerald on fire, and fruit loops versions of the deepwaters. I do nothing different to them then any other zoa and they grow just fine.
 
MikeandNicole said:
More of a gimmicky name then anything. It is more of a look, usually a think band around the mouth with another color. I have the LA Laker, emerald on fire, and fruit loops versions of the deepwaters. I do nothing different to them then any other zoa and they grow just fine.
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OK- that makes sense. The piece I bought does fit that description. Also, this is a 'fruit loops' variety. All these 'designer' names are kind of annoying. I guess traders/vendors make more $ by calling their coral thinks 'Skittles', 'Taste the Rainbow', 'Green Goblin', 'Superman', 'Rasta', 'Green Bay Packers', 'Fire & Ice', 'Black Hole Sun', 'Acid Trip' and so many other silly- but catchy- names.

Do you have pics of your 'la laker', 'emerald on fire', and 'fruit loops' varieties?
Thanks for your input.

-Flamehawk
 
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Fruit loops up top, emeralds on fire on the right, la lakers bottom left. I took this pic a while ago, will put up some updated ones soon.
 
Only thing to worry about is if they are not aquacultured. Polyps coined "Jap Deepwaters" have a fairly high melt rate unless they have been tank raised frags.
 
They're very unlikely to be Japanese. I live in Japan and zoas like that are rare to the point of being non-existent (starting to appear). They're more likely to have come from Vietnam. Exporting coral from Japan is, AFAIK, very difficult.

Shouldn't really matter to the hobbiest though when the zoas are colorful. :)
 
OK. Quick update three weeks later...

My 'super-rare' Japanese Deepwater zoanthids were kind of a bust. They were small, and started to wither after a week. I ended up fragging the 'colony' into 5 small frags- only 1 looks good. Also, my orange torch from extremecorals 'flamed out' after 2 weeks, and died. However, I did buy some zoas & 'black-hole sun' palys from extremecorals, and they're doing well (so far).
 
I bought some and they are growing great they get bigger every week. I even took one tiny head and put it on a rock to see how fast it would grow 2 weeks and it has 2 medium sized polyps. They are wild and so far so good I have had them for a couple months.
 
Bongo and I had this convo as well.. I yet to see paperwork from LFS stating from japan...+1 for gimmick... :beer: btw thx for info Ape aka Tom.
 
Zoas are from tropical waters. If jap deepwater zoas do exist, it must be on a really cold tank..

I dive for zoas from the Philippines, not much zoas under 2 meters.
 
pinoyaquaman said:
Zoas are from tropical waters. If jap deepwater zoas do exist, it must be on a really cold tank..

I dive for zoas from the Philippines, not much zoas under 2 meters.
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Yeah I was going to say...

Okinawan waters only have 5 species of zoanthids. Palythoa tuberculosa, Palythoa mutuki, Zoanthus sansibaricus, Zoanthus kuroshio, and Zoanthus gigantus. None of them are all that colorful. None of them are deepwater (more than 60 meters).

Not to mention its hard time if you do have "proven" Japanese sourced coral in your tank. CITES agreements with Japan makes the black market Japanese coral the most enforced illegal trade. US law enforcement agents will sting, then arrest, and ship the offender off to Japan for trial.
 
pinoyaquaman said:
Zoas are from tropical waters. If jap deepwater zoas do exist, it must be on a really cold tank..

I dive for zoas from the Philippines, not much zoas under 2 meters.
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I think that since this thread is more than 3 years old and I don't think anyone these days really believes the deepwater or the Japanese deepwater hype that surrounded these zoanthids when they first appeared on the market.





Or do they?
 
Nope, just scamming vendors and hobbyists going back to taking photoshopped pictures of generic zoanthids after having them under LED's for a few months and renaming them to get $$$ out of people who don't know any better while calling it "supply and demand" and somehow getting to sleep at night.
 
LA Laker, emerald on fire, and fruit loops examples of DWZ that have just been rebranded/renamed to be sold again for more money and Marketing at its best... LOL
 
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