Ron Reefman
Active member
Ryan, nobody is saying they are the same thing. It's just that they are so close (in our minds... obviously not in your's) that the cost difference is overwhelming. Just get over it.
Jebao WP25 Information
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reeftivo
Skim junkie
treetopflyn
New member
Probably not but I am planning on using my Tank controller making the controller not a factor. Maybe echotech can start selling their pumps with an option of no controller to make them
Less expensive.
4x the cost for better customer service? No thanks.
Ron Reefman
Active member
Yeah, if you think the pump is cheap junk, that's fine. You've stated your case, now let us Chinese junk lovers have some peace and quiet!
treetopflyn
New member
Maybe IF he owned one he would know better like us that do.
Who here owns a WP25?
treetopflyn
New member
Nobody but plenty of us own jebao wp40s and can speak about their quality and function without assuming that this line of pumps are cheap junk like some on here who don't own them are saying
Ok, so it is a quality product, even though no one has it in their tank, but judging by the short amount of time it's big brother has been in use it obviously is a quality product? Does a matter of a few weeks service a long enough time to state it is a quality product? While I would like to see it stand the test of time because there is a need in a less expensive option for people there has not been that amount of time to make any quality judgements on the product. Right now everyone has nothing more than hope.
treetopflyn
New member
But those of us that DO own the wp40 can speak of their observation on the quality of the ones we own much better than those that DON'T own them. Time will tell about the durability.
Granted, however going by the number of people with noise issues, cradle issues, light sensor issues, not working at all in certain positions issues it doesn't say much about the quality. Remember there is good quality and poor quality and that usually determined by time, considering the amount of issues with the overall small number of people owning these pumps, it doesn't really speak to good quality. Perhaps your definition of quality is different and you are willing to accept the issues as minor, and perhaps through time they will be minor but at this point it doesn't seem to be minor. As in all things, time will tell.
treetopflyn
New member
Well the Echotech$& have the "noise issue" as well, which as far as i am concerned is not an "issue" at all. As far as the cradle issue I have no idea because mine doesn't have the issue and still think it user error not a pump issue.. The light sensor is not a big deal either since it has no affect on the actual function of the pump itself. So no, as of now there are no big "quality" issues.
Unlike echotech which obviously have a HUGE issue with their wetsides breaking.
Unlike echotech which obviously have a HUGE issue with their wetsides breaking.
SimonSKL
New member
Let's get back to the title of this thread. If you have information of Jebao WP25 or related to Jebao, please share here. If you have question about Jebao, please also post here. We are not using the thread to attack or compare other pumps. Let's get civilized and remember we all have the same and common interest.
Ecotech isn't even in the contest, it is an entirely different design, that makes it a moot point. Comparing any pump to it is silly, it isn't the same thing. The only thing that has it in the conversationi is the duped name. Compare it to what is a dupe of, a Tunze 6105. FWIW I don't and won't have a Vortech, it is too loud and I don't like large motors attached to the outside of my tank but it does not belong in a comparison to a fully submerged pump.
I have followed this since the pump first appeared, it is interesting and hopefully it will not be the same as virtually every Chinese engineered (duped) product this hobby has seen so far. With the small sampling so far and the issues seen it appears to be no different than the rest of the cheap China offerings. I do hope it isn't because it has a place for those who cannot afford the real thing, for that reason alone I hope it ends up delivering, but having owned far too many Chinese products over the years, I will have doubts until a real track record has emerged.
I have followed this since the pump first appeared, it is interesting and hopefully it will not be the same as virtually every Chinese engineered (duped) product this hobby has seen so far. With the small sampling so far and the issues seen it appears to be no different than the rest of the cheap China offerings. I do hope it isn't because it has a place for those who cannot afford the real thing, for that reason alone I hope it ends up delivering, but having owned far too many Chinese products over the years, I will have doubts until a real track record has emerged.
Ron Reefman
Active member
Jack, really??? Is all this being a pain in the a** necessary? These people like the WP40 and want to talk about the potential of the WP25. They COMPLETELY understand you don't agree. They get it. So just let them continue to fool themselves and leave them in peace. Go start an Eco Tech MP40 Lovers thread and say your piece there. They hear that you think this is junk and that they are all idiots for buying them. OK? :deadhorse1:
So is it OK if I join the Chinese cheap junk pump club? I have a WP40 and I like it. Especially at $75. I want 5 or 6 WP25's and as long as they are as inexpensive as the WP40, I'll be perfectly happy.
Ron, I don't think it's junk, but I also don't think it is a great product either, the reality check here is it hasn't been out long enough to know much about it at all, other than it has a cheap price. It could be a great product or it could be a bad product, no one really knows yet. Hyping it up doesn't do it justice.
Reading is fundamental here, I don't like Vortechs, and have never been quiet about that and I would like to see this pump do well, because it would be a good thing, but the reality is it still it hasn't passed the test of time and there have already been too many issues to state it is a good quality product. If you cannot understand from post #93 that I don't and won't own a Vortech, then it just shows that you are not accustomed to paying attention.
It isn't about being a pain, just keeping it real. Let me state this one last time, so perhaps you will let it sink in. I have no problem with people owning the pump and if it ends up being a decent product that will be a good thing. You cannot call a win in a race after the first lap.
I have not attacked anyone, I am being civil even though to you anything that does not follow the Chinese Party Line that you embrace is people attacking you. The puprpose of a discussion is to examine both the good and the bad, it is not personal and the lack of a real discussion would be a travesty. I have ever shied away from discussing the good and bad about any product, discussion leads to understanding and that leads to learning, on any and all fronts. Are you opposed to discussion?
Reading is fundamental here, I don't like Vortechs, and have never been quiet about that and I would like to see this pump do well, because it would be a good thing, but the reality is it still it hasn't passed the test of time and there have already been too many issues to state it is a good quality product. If you cannot understand from post #93 that I don't and won't own a Vortech, then it just shows that you are not accustomed to paying attention.
It isn't about being a pain, just keeping it real. Let me state this one last time, so perhaps you will let it sink in. I have no problem with people owning the pump and if it ends up being a decent product that will be a good thing. You cannot call a win in a race after the first lap.
I have not attacked anyone, I am being civil even though to you anything that does not follow the Chinese Party Line that you embrace is people attacking you. The puprpose of a discussion is to examine both the good and the bad, it is not personal and the lack of a real discussion would be a travesty. I have ever shied away from discussing the good and bad about any product, discussion leads to understanding and that leads to learning, on any and all fronts. Are you opposed to discussion?
Reeferz412
Coral Hoarder
I just think people enjoy tinkering with these pumps because they are so cheap but out perform the leading market pumps. No one has a long term performance review because they have not been out that long. I really like the idea of these pumps and I was going to buy a 40 but id rather review the 25 since it is dirt cheap. If these pumps prove to last as long as my koralias, then it is worthy of being matched to tunze or vortech or hydor. Some of the issues that have been reported like the light issues can easily be addressed or replaced if you fight with customer service and you wont be paying upwards of $50-$80 for replacing it (unlike ecotech dryside replacement for an mp40).
I have never replaced a component in all of my 6 koralias (all have been owned by 2 or 3 people in the past) and they all work great. I also owned a sun sun 750 gph pump which I gave to my friend to use and its almost 4 years old now ( i had it for 3). Some chinese products do last.
I have never replaced a component in all of my 6 koralias (all have been owned by 2 or 3 people in the past) and they all work great. I also owned a sun sun 750 gph pump which I gave to my friend to use and its almost 4 years old now ( i had it for 3). Some chinese products do last.
You are absolutely right Alex, not everything made in China is crap, the iPad I am on right now is made in China and has performed flawlessly. It is of our design, not theirs, their engineering is frequently failed which is why so many companies have moved their own engineers to China to help. It will get better, but there will always be those companies that shove out Odyssea quality products at a cheap price. Hopefully this product won't end up in that category but the deck is stacked against it.
Ron Reefman
Active member
Jack, I understand your point, you missed mine. We get you don't think this is a good pump. And it isn't about "just keeping it real" The thread is asking about information on the WP25 and you don't have any. You and I both know you don't like the cheap Chinese stuff. You are just stirring the pot. I'm not taking any of this personal. I'm just willing to be like a lot of other people and take my chances and buy cheap Chinese junk. I'm allowed. You don't like it and that's allowed as well. But this thread was asking about info, we've heard your opinions. Don't take it so personal.
goofyreefer
Member
EXACTLY what I'm looking for
Hopefully we will see some group buys for this.
Hopefully we will see some group buys for this.
