SimonSKL
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If you can afford a Vortech or Tunze, go buy it but it is not quieter than a WP. WP is not a knockoff but a lower price alternative to those who can't afford or don't want to spend their hard earned money on Vortech or Tunze.
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If you can afford a Vortech or Tunze, go buy it but it is not quieter than a WP. WP is not a knockoff but a lower price alternative to those who can't afford or don't want to spend their hard earned money on Vortech or Tunze.
The Tunze will be quiet, I challenge anyone to try and hear my Tunzes, at any speed or flow pattern. The Vortech will not be silent, the motor on the outside of the tank will be audible, it is just the way it is. Only you can decide if you are ok with the Jebao, if you want better quality, quiet operation, a controller that works, a pump that doesn't have to be cleaned every few weeks to keep the flow up, and a company that has set the standard in customer care, then spend the money for the Tunze.
To many people it isn't worth it to spend more money upfront, but over the years it becomes a bargain.
My fish almost ignore the food unless the pumps are on.
shellshocked
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My Tunze died recently and I gave the WP-25 a try vs forking out another $400. I doubt it will last as long as my Tunze (I have one of the first models about 7 years old I am guessing) it was a great product. Both can produce noise when running high rates but I ran both at half speed. My tank is nearly silent so if a pump has even a slight hum I definitely can hear it. The Jebao is a cheaply made pump no question, when I opened the box I thought I just wasted my money. However I have been impressed with the wave function. The wave action on the Jebao is better than my Tunze. It is also quiet and smaller than the Tunze. There is no question that if you want the very best quality get Tunze but I am not sure it is worth 5x the price. Time will tell.
gibbus123
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Yes the controller is working fine. Unfortunately I got the pair of pumps from an LFS in hongkong during a trip 2 months ago.
gibbus123
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Shot an email to them. Just irks me that it only lasted a couple of months. Great flow though when it was working.
Sacohen
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There are bad pumps by every manufacturer.
You unfortunately got 1.
My WP-40 has been running since about March and my WP-25 was one of the 1st one in the US around mid May and I have had no problems with them.
Hopefully they will take care of it for you, if not you could try Jebao directly, but that is a long shot, but won't hurt to try.
You unfortunately got 1.
My WP-40 has been running since about March and my WP-25 was one of the 1st one in the US around mid May and I have had no problems with them.
Hopefully they will take care of it for you, if not you could try Jebao directly, but that is a long shot, but won't hurt to try.
invertinoob
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it happened to me. but it was the controller i think.
Same here. But I got it replaced. But I think must been faulty batch. Got another wp25 still working strong and another wp40 running on another thank with no problems
JRR1285
Member
Mine did the same thing on a dimmer. I received a replacement controller and mine has been working well since. I ditched the dimmer because I feel it caused the failure with the controller. I want to run ELSE mode but I can't in my 29G without a dimmer. More reason to get an Apex and get full control of it.
Bpb
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Is it just me, or are the vast majority of wp25 and wp40 failures seen with people who run them with some sort of DIY cable, secondary controller, or DIY dimmer? Seems that 9 of every 10 failures or so fall into one of those categories. Haven't read but a handful of failures running them stock, but tons when they're modded somehow.
londonloco
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I thought these couldn't be controlled by an Apex.....
Sacohen
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I think it is you. I have had mine running on a Reef Angel for 3-4 months now and prior to that the WP-40 was running on an LED dimmer.
I think I used the stock controller for about 1 week total.
These can be controlled by a Reef Angel and an Apex with a cable from Reef Angel.
Reef Angel is simple just get the cable from Reef Angel and then set up the programming.
Setting it up for an Apex, a link is below.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21910314&postcount=1603
JRR1285
Member
I have been reading mostly good things about using them with a controller such as a Reef Angel or Apex. I am seeing enough dimmer failures for me to avoid it though.
You need to make a custom cable. See below quote.
This is not my work someone else created it, I'm just re-posting it for others to use.
For Neptune Apex:
You will need:
A Reef Angel Jebao Cable. That's it. No need for the Jebao controller box anymore.
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or
0-10v analog input PWM module:
Search ebay for LED DIMMER PWM 10 A.12VDC-24 VDC; POT. or 0-10V control
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Cat5e ethernet cord
Wire nuts
or
Solder and heat shrink tubing
(optional) Solid core wires (or wires that can handle up to 6A) stevesleds.com has some.
Directions:
Unscrew the controller casing
24- is blue
24+ is reddish brown
VA is green yellow and remains untouched
Cut the blue and red wire about halfway down, so you have enough wire connected to the controller still, and some down the cord to the pump. You can also desolder the wires from the 24+ and 24- points, but this is more difficult.
Connect solid core wire to extend the wire length with wire nuts, solder, or some way to connect the wires securely. This makes it easier to work with.
The 0-10v PWM module terminals look like this -+ +-
The first left side -(blue) and +(red) go to the pump wires
The next right side +(red) -(blue) are the ones connected to the controller internals 24+ and 24- points
For the wire to connect to the apex VDM ports, you can buy the Neptune cable ~$15, or do the following.
Cut one end off a Cat 5e ethernet cord.
Keep the following wires:
orange/white wire (positive) - orange wire (negative)
blue/white wire (positive) - green wire (negative)
When plugged into the first VDM port, blue/white wire, green wire is V1, oranges are V2
Second port, blue white green is V3, oranges V4
On the 0-10v module for V1, connect blue/white to + on 0-10v control input terminal , green to - control.
Put the controller back together in a project box, do a really good job with electrical tape taping the loose box together, or fit it all inside somehow and screw back together.
Create profiles to control the pump. The original controller mode are kept, so you can use the Apex to set intensity.
The easiest profiles are ramping profiles throughout the day, like this:
Outlet - Base_Var1 (for V1)
Set PM-Else
If Time 07:00 to 10:00 Then AM-Else
If Time 10:01 to 21:00 Then Day-Else
If Time 21:01 to 23:00 Then PM-Else
If FeedA 000 Then Feed
(feed would be a profile to allow the feed mode)
Profile name: AM-Else
Control type: Ramp
Ramp time (minutes): 1
Start Intensity: 60
End Intensity: 60
(this makes the pump run at 60% power, but if you use the ELSE mode on the controller, it simulates reef crest mode on a vortech, but at 60% overall power)
A midday profile can be made to use a higher intensity, and the PM one can use a lower one.
This barely touches on what can be programmed. If you set the pump on H1 (full power), you can create your own wave mode, like this (borrowed from Kenargo's Tunze profiles)
Profile name: Day Rt
Type: pump
Minimum Intensity: 30
Maximum Intensity: 100
Sync: Enabled
Divide-by 10: Enabled
Initial off time: 4
On time: 8
Off time: 0
Profile name: Day Lt
Type: pump
Minimum Intensity: 30
Maximum Intensity: 100
Sync: Enabled
Divide-by 10: Enabled
Initial off time: 0
On time: 8
Off time: 4
(This creates a huge syncronized wave between two pumps)
You can also use the Weather profiles to control the pump. The Vortech profiles do not work.
Sacohen
New member
You can buy the cable already made at Reef Angel and then just put an RJ-45 end on it instead of the header connection it has.
You would just do this part of the above quote...
You would just do this part of the above quote...
