Jessezm's 200g Pentagon Corner Tank

jessezm

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Hey, folks!

I'm in the planning/ordering/aquiring phase of a 200g pentagon, and wanted to document it here and hopefully get folks' input and feedback.

To make a long story short, I had to break down and sell off my old 110g reef system about a year ago, and have since moved and am now planning my dream tank (well, the attainable dream tank, at least).

The tank:

I know a pentagon is not the most traditional shape but it has to fit into a corner of a formal dining room without sticking out too much.

The tank itself has just been ordered from Tenecor. It's 48"X48"X30T", and the front panel is one long piece of acrylic that will be bent in an oven. I should get it mid-July.

there are two polygon overflows along the back walls, 18X5X12, each will house a 1.5" durso, a 1" return line from the return pump, and a 1" return from the closed loop.

Flow:

Flow will come from a reeflo dart return pump split into two returns, and each return will have a split centipede nozzle, making four outlets total (if this adds too much head pressure, I may consider a pressure-rated pump instead).

additionally, the tank is drilled for a closed loop with a 1.5" drain in the back corner behind the left side overflow and four 1" returns. Another Reeflo Dart will power the closed loop, which will be plumbed to an OM 4-way. The rear returns are about 6" up from the bottom of each overflow wall (they come out through the overflow chamber from underneath the tank), and the front returns are in the two front corners blowing up and back. i'll play around to see what the best flow design is, but I'm thinking of drum #3, which will open the two back returns, and then the two front returns, blowing detritus up through the rocks to the front of the tank, where it will get blown up into the water column and back towards the overflows.

Filtration/plumbing:

There is one large sump which will house a refugium, some baffles, and and AquaC EV 180 (for now), and there is also a separate skimmer box plumbed into that which will house and ASM G3.

there will also be a drain valve from each of those that goes direclty through the floor and into the laundry drain line, and another valve that opens a line from a salt mixing tank on the other side of the wall in the laundry closet. Water changes will be effortless! shut off main pump, open drain valve, close valve, open new water valve, close valve. there will also be an emergency flood drain near the very top of the sump which will drain into the drain line in the even that the power fails and the anti-syphon holes fail, and the check valve (if I use one) fails. I like the idea of three levels of redundancy to protect my precious 120 year old house!

Lighting:

i'm going all T5. this is where i really need your help guys. i know it's a 30"T tank, which is pretty deap. but i'm not doing halides and i'm not planning an SPS tank. This will be filled with big, swaying softies and LPS, and maybe a few SPS colonies way down the line near the top. I want to avoid heat issues with lights and pumps, and I'm trying to decide what bulb layout to use as well as whether to overdrive the bulbs or not. I'm looking at the SLS retro kits, using normal triad ballasts but upgrading to IC SLR reflectors. maybe 8 39 watt bulbs? could I get away with 6??? Will I absolutely have to overdrive the bulbs with the IC 660???

Anyhow, i'd love your feedback. I'll post a drawing below, and some more info if I think of any.
 
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Here are a few drawings:

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In the first drawing, pay no attention to the layout under the tank--that has changed and I'll try to get a picture of the details below.
 
Here's a general idea of what's under the tank. I'll have to move the left drain line (orange) further back to the skimmer section. also note that I will have true union ball valves on all bulkheads and pumps, and ballvalves on the drain lines from the sump, and will be able to drain the OM 4-way lines before removing it.
 
Skimmer choice

Skimmer choice

I also have th option of trading those skimmers for a Turboflotor 5000 shorty

Anyone have any thoughts on making that choice? I could feed it directly from on of the overflow drains and run it either internal or external.

Anyone have any thoughts on any part of the setup?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7566172#post7566172 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jessezm
Oops, forgot to add the picture!

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What is the Purple pipe for and where is it going?

Very nice drawings!
 
Thanks! The purple pipe is from my pre-mixed saltwater on the other side of the wall in the laundry closet. Open a valve and voila, instant water change!
 
Just ordered my OM 4-way, and two Darts came in the mail today! I'm still not sure about using the 2nd Dart for the return pump--would that be too much turnover in my sump? I suppose I could just tee off the return and put it on a ball valve and re-direct some flow back to the skimmer. Thoughts?

Also, I just got the AquaC EV-180 and the ASM G3 used as part of a package deal, but now I have the opportunity to trade for a Turboflotor 5000 shorty compact--anyone have any thoughts on these skimmers? Thanks.
 
they are more commonly used in europe.....supposedly good from what i've read.....if i were you though, i would sell the EV180 and G3 and buy a g4x or g5, or another bigger skimmer....unless there are height restrictions
 
The stand will be about 48" high, so a G4X or G5 would work fine. I've been on the lookout for one of those, too--this one just happened to come my way...
 
I'd trade up for the aquamedic shorty 5000
the aqua c skimmers seem to hit or miss with most people saying miss, and the ASM's are pretty good, but the sedra pumps add significantly more heat to the water than others and draw less air than comparable pumps. the ocean runner needle wheel pumps (used by aquamedic) are proven performers. plus you can hook it up directly to your overflow line and run it external, adding even less heat to the water and getting more organics out.
 
One other thing--does anyone have any ideas about building the stand? I was thinking of getting a local cabinet maker or carpenter to do it. any advice? how much should I expect to pay? It has to be a fairly nice looking piece of furniture...
 
Thanks! I just downloaded the free version of google sketchup. I'm no computer wiz at all and it only took me an afternoon to figure it out--just do the video tutorial.
 
Oh, and you should see the resolution you can get--RC doesn't allow large files so it just doesn't do the drawings any justice.
 
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