I opted not to buy this one, my LFS had 2 of them next to 3 frags each of 2 other species and I COULD NOT tell them apart! Besides I think $65-80 is WAY overpriced for this. I bought a Borealis instead for $50, much better looking and better PE, IMHO. If you got one for $40 thats a bit better than what ORAs go for around here. Maybe ORAs next releases will be named "Tom" "Dick" and "Harry" for dec, jan, feb respectively, and all look the same! I hope not, I would really like to see a red stag or something like that. Maybe a *****in monti with wild colors...Grande w/ extra espresso shot lol