*Johnseye's New 260g Build*

Just as with all your fish and corals, all live rock should be quarantined for several weeks before being trusted in the display tank. You can get some cheap kiddies' wading pools to do this in. It will provide you with more time to pull out any nasties that may have hitchhiked in on the rock.

Crabs are only the beginning. What if you have some stomatopods or fire worms in there? You will never see the babies until they begin to gow out, and that's when the damage begins.

Dave.M
 
Just as with all your fish and corals, all live rock should be quarantined for several weeks before being trusted in the display tank. You can get some cheap kiddies' wading pools to do this in. It will provide you with more time to pull out any nasties that may have hitchhiked in on the rock.

Crabs are only the beginning. What if you have some stomatopods or fire worms in there? You will never see the babies until they begin to gow out, and that's when the damage begins.

Dave.M

These are the perils we deal with. My 120g has aiptasia and bubble algae that I kept under control, but I did not want it imported to the new tank. Reading many many reviews about TBS live rock I decided it was the better choice, other than starting from completely dry rock. In hindsight dry rock might have been a better choice. Only time will tell.

I don't know how much QT of the TBS live rock would have helped. Maybe some but the nasties are good hiders especially in porous rock. I think adding the Melanurus could be a good thing. Unless they get eaten by the stomatopods.:worried:
 
Night is a good time to look for nasties. They seem unable to see red light, so you can use this to see what comes out after dark in your quarantine systems.

Dave.M
 
Looks really good. Live rock always scares me but I'm sure the benefits of live rock outweigh the bad.
 
The twin rock aquascape is very nice. Please give us an update later on the live rock.

very nice tank and stand. really like your aquascape too

Thanks. My last tank was a wall aquascape with branches shooting out on the ends and a cavity in the middle. While it was a great hiding place it hindered flow and was difficult to pull access fallen objects and flip snails.

This twin island aquascape is fully open in the back allowing for more swimming space and circular swim patterns. Much better for the fish.
 
With all the issues with Miracles, would you choose them again?

Looks like your overflow has toothed weir, but I thought I read that you were getting that changed!

How is the external box glued to the tank? Is it glass to glass siliconed! I recall reading somewhere that miracles puts something in between the tank and the overflow box and was hoping to double check with you on that ...
 
With all the issues with Miracles, would you choose them again?

I would talk to other vendors and consider purchasing from another before Miracles. What I learned is that I need to be aware of every minute detail and make sure it's clear, in writing with a custom design. Now I know better. I don't know if another vendor would provide better service. I know there are others out there that are highly reputable, a couple in particular on the east and west coast that I received quotes from. Their quotes were significantly higher. Miracles was not the lowest cost, but they had a better reputation than the lower cost providers. In the end I suppose you get what you pay for. Was all the effort I put in worth the cost savings? It was at least a wash.

In the end Miracles still made a very good product. The tank and stand are beautiful. I had someone over the other day who commented on the stand saying they thought it looked like high quality furniture. That's comforting. I'm a bit of a perfectionist and while it's not perfect, nothing ever is.


Looks like your overflow has toothed weir, but I thought I read that you were getting that changed!

No, always a toothed weir. I like to buy my fish as babies so having it toothed helps keep them from flowing into the filter socks. It also helps keep light from getting into the overflow and growing algae

How is the external box glued to the tank? Is it glass to glass siliconed! I recall reading somewhere that miracles puts something in between the tank and the overflow box and was hoping to double check with you on that ...

Not sure how they glued it. I think it's silicone but it's a very thick bead if it is. When I had the overflow top replaced I asked Derek if a heavier top would cause problems for the overflow and he assured me it wouldn't so I assume it's glued on very tightly. I can ask him how they secured it.
 
Thanks for your candor John. I am considering an almost identical build from Miracles, and this is very helpful.

About the attachment of the overflow, I was interested in whether the box was glued directly to the glass, or bonded to something else. Is the back of your tank painted black, or is that something plastic glued to it?
 
Thanks for your candor John. I am considering an almost identical build from Miracles, and this is very helpful.

About the attachment of the overflow, I was interested in whether the box was glued directly to the glass, or bonded to something else. Is the back of your tank painted black, or is that something plastic glued to it?

Directly to the glass. The back glass is something I was very impressed with. It's an internally colored black. Glass on the outside of both sides.
 
Once again it's time for an update. I've been extremely busy, making steady progress with the aquarium and things are changing every week. These updates go back a month or so and I'll start with the oldest ones first.

The ecosystem is still young despite the TBS rock and its going through its various cycles. I had a small amount of hair algae only on about 3 rocks, which were the Walt Smith 2.1 rocks. Once I added the fish from my 120g the algae was gone in literally one day. Then came the dino phase. I think that phase is ending now (God I hope so). I battled dinos and cyano in my 120g so knew a little about how to control it. I have no cyano at this time. Fingers crossed. Last time I had to use Chemiclean which worked well.

I had started dosing KZ ZEObak from day one with this system in order to get a good microfauna foundation. However I was also dosing Spongepower because I wanted to keep the sponges on the TBS rock alive, and once I added the coral from the 120g I started dosing KZ Aminos as well as 2 part. I think the Spongepower and/or Aminos gave the dinos enough of what it needed. I've since stopped the Spongepower and Aminos.

I cut the light back to 5 hours for MH and 7 for T5. I had 1 MP60 on the front left, 1 MP40 on the front right, and two MP40s in the back. I don't think the MP40s provide enough flow even at 100% so I added another MP60 for the front right. The added flow is helping a lot. I plan on putting the MP40 in the back middle. I believe flow is critical in controlling dinos and cyano. I'll share what I'm doing with the ZEObak a little later.

I trimmed down the skirt a little over an inch bringing it 1.5" above the bottom of the tank. There is internal eurobracing on the bottom that's about 1/2" high so the sand around the walls of the tank comes about even or just over the skirt. I secured the skirt to the steel frame by tapping holes in the steel beams and using L brackets. The skirt is now flush to the steel frame.

I finished off the stand with some themed knobs.

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This board is under the tank. It's changed already as I've moved all the Vortech controllers to the left and plan on sawing off about a foot of the right side in order to put some shelving to the right.

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I made some progress on the manifold. I recently added a ZEOvit reactor, which means I pulled the GFO out of my BRS reactor that I never mounted. You can see it sitting next to the sump. According to the ZEOvit system the ROX carbon I'm running in the reactor is too much and too fast so I'll be pulling the BRS reactor offline and putting in some passive carbon. You can't see the ZEOvit reactor in this picture. It's an Avast Vibe. I'm also in the process of adding a used Tunze AT-5000 chiller I just picked up this Friday. Hopefully it still works well. I've got some of the plumbing done. Because it has decent threaded in/ouputs I decided to hard plumb as much as possible.

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The LifeReef skimmer with Vectra M1 is doing its job, and because my drains are so loud the venturi on this skimmer is no longer the loudest thing in my system.

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Here's a shot of the Genesis Renew AWC and Avast ATO. The Avast has been working fine. Even though I've freed up my Spectrapure UPLC I think I'm going to keep the Avast in line for now.

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It's time to start sharing the reason why I put all this time, money and effort into this hobby! The livestock! :fish1:

I'm still learning my way around photographing inside an aquarium with the blue leaning spectrum. I used a flash for these photos. I'm sure we'll see my photo skills improve along with the growth of this aquarium.

My fine finned friends are not camera shy. I'm sure they think there's food coming. I haven't begun to name our livestock yet, because the first couple my kids named years ago died. They've come to accept the challenges of introducing new fish to the tank and the occasional mystery disappearance. All these fish were moved over from my 120g. The Clown pair, Yellow Tang and Melanurus pair were the first from the summer of 2014. The Flame and Multicolored Angels were added last summer. I also have a Bangaii Cardinal and McCosker's wrasse. Sadly the Cleaner Shrimp you see under the rocks was found the other day as a shell. I have a Mantis Shrimp who hitchhiked in on the TBS rock. I caught a glimpse of him once so I know he's there. I also have some unwanted crabs (not the friendly Porcelains) and several Pistol Shrimp. That's a story for another day as I have big plans for them. There's only one piece of live rock I moved over from my 120g and that's pictured in the bottom right. I wanted to start with new live rock for this tank, but there was too much life on this piece to let go. There's a rock anemone, zoas and superman mushrooms as well as years of coralline growth living there.

This photo was from June 14th with pumps stopped if you note the lower water level.

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These photos were from July 30th. I've been taking pictures of the Acropora monthly as I want to have a visual record of transitioning from my 120g with Radions to this tank with MH/T5. I'll share some comparison or progression photos later.

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Man that is a tiny flame angel, or a very large clownfish :D

:lol:

Baby Flame Angel. I've had him for about a year. Model citizen so far. I love getting fish as juveniles and watching them grow. Those clowns were smaller than the Flame when I got them. I've since picked up a few more baby clowns only a couple months old. There's a clown breeder in my area and I had the opportunity to see his setup. Walls of tanks, huge tubs of baby clowns. All different designer breeds. Really something to see.
 
It looks like you beat the algae problem or at the very least controlling it. Tank is looking good

I think the tank is just cycling. My recent dino bloom is nearly gone now and I didn't have to resort to the Dino-X. I only reduced lighting by an hour or two, stopped dosing Aminos and continued to vacuum the sand bed with water changes every week or two.
 
I took some pictures last night of the corals, and a few fish, although some of the fish were a little shy this time. I did not use a flash. All 3 Radiums and 4 T5s on. Some shots were top down using a portal and some were through the glass from front and side.

Several of my acros are about 10 months old, although I do have an Acropora Walindii (Red Dragon), a couple stags, some plating monti, a Green Slimer that are about 2 years old. In the move I wasn't able to take everything without taking the rock so some of these are just frags of the original colonies. The Green Slimer was huge encompassing an entire rock. I only kept part of it however as I don't like its spreading growth pattern. The Frogspawn, Hammer and other LPS is about 2 years old as well. My coral struggled under LED by comparison and I tried many things. I ran two Radions over my 120g and later supplemented with two T5s. I tried a few different schedules, which was one nice thing about the Radion fixture. I think my biggest problem was that I had them in a canopy which limited the height and spread. Within two weeks I noticed a significant improvement in color and growth from my acros under MH/T5. Since the coral went from an established tank to a new, not fully cycled tank and showed such significant improvement so quickly, I can only attribute it to the lighting. I will show side by side shots for comparison another time.

I haven't glued anything down yet as I wanted to be certain of the placement and any other possible issues. Good thing as I may be doing some freshwater dips on the live rock to flush out the mantis and a few bad crabs.

Here's a Scolymia, Superman mushrooms and baby mini carpet anemone.
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Red Cap Monti with purple/green Frogspawn under it
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This Millepora's polyps retracted under LEDs and only came out to a limited extent at night. Now they are fully extended during full light.
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These are a few Acros I got from Adam at Battlecorals back in Sept. They were under the Radions until this June. Still little frags but growing and coloring well now.
This one's a Red Planet.
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To the right is Sanjay's Beard, left is either Copps Blue or Blue Matrix and I've forgotten what's the top right. There are some orange and green Ricordia mushrooms to the left.
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Pink Lemonade and either the Blue Matrix or Copps Blue
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Yellow Tang and a Clown
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Left side shot of tank.
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Bangaii Cardinal
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Right front of the tank
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Some Zoas and a Rock Anemone. The Zoas are fast disappearing. I had them in several spots and this rock was nicely covered as it was the one I moved from the old tank. I can only attribute the disappearance of the Zoas to crabs.

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Right side of tank

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This is either a BC Secale or Garf Bonsai
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