Johnsteph10's 400g Build Log!!

Johnsteph10

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Well, due to a number of people asking and my own desire to document everything, I have decided to post (yet another! :eek2: ) build log of a large tank. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. Blame my friends.

I just wanted to thank all of the LIRA members/friends who have been more than helpful, melev for his excellent (and ridiculously long and detailed) thread, fliger, gregt, tedinator, and others from the Large Tank forum for whom I am greatful for ideas (Don't worry, I'll drop more names as this thread progresses!).

I'll try to keep this entertaining as well as educational and fun..not just "here is my equipment with pretty pictures" thread. Though, I do like pictures.

And I'll start out at the very beginning (though I am not that far yet).

A little history (cue in the fancy SW theme..)...A long time ago in a state now far far away...I've had a fair share of tanks in my time (from a 5g nano to a 120g..and everything in between). My wife did not like the number of tanks - yes, she did say that quote...and yes, I have survived her wrath multiple times for posting that. :)

Because my marriage is important to me (at least that's what my wife tells me to think), I had to agree after moving to NY to cut down my number of tanks. I said, "Fine." (that's a direct quote...I know because I wrote it down. :) ). I want a big tank.

As a result, I had to have a house with a basement (not a problem here on Long Island). I would build a fishroom. I would have a big tank.

After doing a LOT of research, I ended up going with James at Envision Acrylics rather than going with a glass tank. IMHO, unless you have the resources to built it on site, glass is simply not an option. I initially wanted a longer tank (like 8 feet or so) but after discussing what my final goal was...he made the suggestion of a shorter but wider tank. I had not really thought too much in that direction although I did love wide tanks for aquascaping reasons.

After a lot of consideration, I ended up going with a 6 foot long x 4 foot wide x 27 inch tall eurobraced acrylic tank viewable on 3 sides as a peninsula style tank jutting out from the fishroom (currently under construction). Why those dimensions?

Basically I chose them because I would still be able to reach the center of the tank for maintenance reasons. I also went with that height because 1. James recommended 1 inch acrylic for no bowing at all and he felt going higher would require thicker acrylic if I wanted the tank (over)built correctly. and 2. I'm only 6 feet tall and no, I do not have gorilla arms (despite the baby picture in my avatar).

This was in the end of Feb./early March. The tank would be delivered June 9th - oddly enough, timed the day after we closed on our new house up here (strange, huh? Please don't tell my wife it wasn't an accident).

After a long and drawn out process (Yellow Freight company's inability to deliver as promised coupled with a lazy butt driver and NO help), the crate made it into my garage (only because the former owner was a sheriff and had friends in all of the right places..thank you Mike!).

Here's a pic of the 5 feet wide, 7 feet long, and almost 3 feet tall 1000lb crate sitting in my garage:
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I promise lots more pics and details to follow at this Yet-Another-Build-Log continues...(Isn't that the name of a Soap Opera?).

Please feel free to comment, question, suggest, abuse, or talk about related or unrelated stuff here. :)

Future posts will include details about the tank with some really cool ideas, steel stand, fish room building, water movement, skimming, LR from ReeferMadness (freakin' awesome LR! and incredible customer service), the Aquatronica aquarium controller, lighting, air exchange and humidity control, etc. Lots of info, I promise.

John
 
John,

I can't wait for the part where you tell everyone I drop the tank:(.

Good luck with it and let me know if you need any more heavy stuff moved, I will ask K to drop by:lol:. I hope you will have a tank tour before we can't use the pool anymore.
 
Man I sure wish I had that 5 feet wide, 7 feet long, and almost 3 feet tall 1000lb crate sitting in MY garage :)
 
Dwayne - it didn't look so nice sitting in the middle of the street in front of my house where the freight guy dumped it. :( But it was packaged well. :)
 
Johnsteph10 said:
Dwayne - it didn't look so nice sitting in the middle of the street in front of my house where the freight guy dumped it. :( But it was packaged well. :)
OK then I sure wish I had that 5 feet wide, 7 feet long, and almost 3 feet tall 1000lb crate sitting in the middle of the street in front of my house :)
 
you can keep the crate, I'll take the tank :)

that's a great size you went with. 4' gives caps plenty of room to grow :)
 
Thats a great size with tons of potential. Way too many big tanks are just too deep in my opinion. This will give you more lighting options as well. Great luck and have fun with it.
 
Ok, I thought it was time to continue updating the thread so that I don't fall too far behind as I am currently doing stuff downstairs = my room = manly room of testosterone and football...errr..a fishtank and fishroom. Yeah, that's manly enough (I hope).

Anyway, I mentioned that I got my tank from Envision Acrylics. James (the owner) and I talked a lot about what exactly I was wanting. He is also kind enough to take pictures of the construction. Rather than rambling on, I thought that I would post some of the pics with a short description of some of the cool ideas to help others out who may want something similar.

This is a pic of the 4 walls (1 inch thick acrylic) with a black back and what will be an external overflow.
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This is a pic of the back. The 2 large notches are cutouts for the removable overflow grills to sit in. They can handle somewhere around 6,000 to 7,000 gph. If I totally remove them, they can handle likely somewhere around 10,000 gph.
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This is a pic of the external overflow before being added to the tank. It has 3 2 inch bulkheads and 1 1.5 inch bulkhead. It is 10 inches deep, 30 inches wide.
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This is a pic of the eurobraced top with 4 1.5 inch holes.
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This is a pic of the 2 2 inch bulkheads in the back with a strainer hose attached that will run across the back. This will be the intake for a huge closed loop in the future.
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Pic of the removable overflow grill.
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Pic of the notch drilled on either side for Tunzes.
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Anthony - somewhere around 450lbs. 4 of us moved it - it didn't require 6 because 1 of the guys really counts as 2.5 people - 3 if he's in a good mood (thanks Konrad!).

fishology - thank you. It is my dream tank and I spent forever planning out each little step.

So far, none of my plans have worked like I envisioned. :lol: It keeps everything interesting.
 
Dude that is sooo big !

Wait until LIPA gets a hold of you , they're gonna make you move .:lol:

Any updates , looks like a great start .
 
I like the dimensions you chose for the tank. Leaves it wide open for some beautiful aquascaping and viewing. It will be interesting to follow the whole process. Good luck and keep us posted on progress.
 
Thought that I would bump this up with some more info and a question.

I've had it filled up for a while with ro/di and pumped in about 50g of premade SW. I then decided to just dump in a whole bucket of Reefcrystals...the next day I noticed a fair amount of what looks like sandy precipitation on the bottom of the tank and some on the sides.

Anyone else have this? I hadn't heard anything about IO/Reefcrystals not dissolving well. This is annoying.

Anyways..

On to the stand.

I chose to go with a welded steel stand because of the size and weight. I have a fishroom and didn't need underneath the tank for storage so it fit my needs well.

I ended up going with a 2x2 inch tubular steel stand made of 11 gauge (sp?) (1/8 inch thick) steel. Because my ceiling are so short, I designed it so I could remove all 5 legs and attach longer legs in the future if/when I move so I wouldn't be out all of the hard work.

Here's a final pic. The yellow discoloration is from pollen. The back 2 legs and center leg are all attached with 4 stainless steel bolts/screws/washers and the front 2 legs are attached with 2 each. The stand is about 20 inches tall (because of my short ceilings). 1 coat of marine primer. 2 coats of rust-oleum gloss black paint. 1 coat of Vispar polyurethane to seal and protect. Should be good to go.
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As with all acrylic tanks, you need to make sure to provide support across the bottom and avoid any spots of increased pressure to help prevent bowing. On top I have a 3/4 inch sheet of ply coated with 3 coats of gloss white paint (my poor man's starboard) since you don't need it for acrylic tanks.

That's it for this short update. :)
 
Wow, Great start. We have similar threads going right now, but I'm definately monitoring your progress. I'll probably be asking some questions as you go!
 
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